Bring back Zenos and have him chop Wuk in half, kill the baby mamool and have him duel us again for 7.1. Anythings better then this slop.
Bring back Zenos and have him chop Wuk in half, kill the baby mamool and have him duel us again for 7.1. Anythings better then this slop.
I'm at the cutscenes after the level 95 dungeon, and Wuk Lamat is really growing on me. It takes a while, but she starts to get a lot more likable. Not spoiling anything, but all of my grievances were addressed and taken into account. Except the voice acting. that's still pretty bad.
Like I said in my last post, the only expansions with a good opening are Shadowbringers, and Heavensward. Mostly because of their intriguing lead-up. Dawntrail has pretty much zero leadup for the first time since ARR.
Yeah, it took like 10 hours to get to a good point in this story, but it takes like 100 hours to get to a good point in the whole game's story from the beginning.
Stick it out, and you'll probably start having a good time. I'd still put it around the level of the Ala Mhigo segments of Stormblood, which technically makes it the second worst, but still far more enjoyable than other game stories.
*If you don't like her then just skip the story you paid for*This argument is just bad. Why would anyone pretend to like a character they dislike? That makes no sense.
Just played a bit more today in the 92 range of story quests, and still enjoying it. I don't mind her character, voice or our role at her side. Did a longer post back on page 26 about what I like about her, so don't feel like repeating it all here.
If people hate her that much, they're free to just skip through the story if it's so unbearable to have her along and as the focus of the story. Or if it completely ruins the game for them, there's other games out there. I do find it a bit hard to understand what's so horrible or annoying about her that it would completely ruin the experience. I feel like people make it harder on themselves by focusing too hard on the things that upset them, paying more attention to it which ends up upsetting them more. But eh. I'm probably in the minority that just enjoys the story and characters and still bothers to visit the forums and topics like this. It is kinda entertaining though
Again, I think they are only pretending to like her, because of their va or because they are furries. There is actually nothing to like about this character.
Just finished the MSQ. Oh boy, where do I start. For reference, I ended up skipping most of the cutscenes around the last 98 level quest because I had had enough of it all.
No spoilers of course.
There were elements that I actually enjoyed, some very touching scenes and interesting concepts brought forth but, for the majority of the expansion is was akin to an ultimate, ultimate test of patience.
Wuk Lamat is a symptom of a much bigger problem and it all starts with the hook of the expansion. I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt but I, and by extension my WOL, wanted no part with it. Wuk Lamat is not a compelling character and she's played for more laughs then a studio sound track. The constant proclamations of becoming the Lion King tied to her chronic sea/air sickness being played for laughs, her falling into pit holes among a myriad of other childish antics leave me feeling like I'm escorting a toddler.
The only times I laughed were unintended by the developers, I guarantee you. The 93 quests after the dungeon involving Erenville for example.
Even characters designed to force a laugh make me uncomfortable.
The Twins have no place here and the paper thin excuse for why they have come along is laughable at best.
The nonsensical choices they make with the structure of the world and the characters and LACK OF ACTUAL STAKES AND CONSEQUENCES only further my disdain for having to it through it. I savoured a BRIEF sigh of relief when the contest was finished. I have two minutes where I got to travel with a companion I was infinitely more comfortable with. I was excited to get back to just...being the WOL and helping people solve their problems, no matter how small they would be. But the writers could not get off their high horse and had to shove mention of Wuk Lamat into even that. The character we do meet and help out is a one-note carbon copy of her with no endearing qualities.
Solution 9 was where things started getting my attention again and I found myself really enjoying the narrative until....they introduced one character who I will not name but was shoehorned in for a forced emotional scene down the line. There was another character they introduced who was a genuine joy, extremely well voice acted and charismatic. I wish they had been a travelling companion but...I digress, I don't want to spoil what happens to them.
The sheer background Deus Ex Machina that happens towards the end, in cutscene no less, was my breaking point. Much like the entire story feeling forced, the fact that a resolution to a major conflict was resolved so....effortlessly and without reverence for the work and good will that had been built from the previous expansion is just....saddening, heart breaking.
The "final villain" of the story is shallow and uninteresting and a poor opposition to the theme that Wuk Lamat has been shouting at us for nigh on 40 hours.
As someone who liked a lot of what Endwalker did (not all mind you) and who ADORED Shadowbringers, I have never felt so...emotionally dejected and upset for the story that I went through. As far as I'm concerned, Dawntrail never happened.
Last edited by arstoka; 07-02-2024 at 02:51 AM.
Aaaand i'm finally done with the MSQ. Objectively much worse than Stormblood, and subjectively less enjoyable than ARR.
When the first half of the Story was over i prayed to all the Gods that we don't have to babysit her along into the next part.....
Of course we do..... I can't stand her and every Cutscene she is placed into i just sigh and skip by now. She is a furred Disney princess with a knick in her disc and reflects that perfectly in her personality.
PLEASE Square PLEASE let her stay at home for the next patches.
ᛞᚨᚢᛃᛁᚦ ᚠᛖᚺᚢ
ᛞᚨᚢᛃᚨᚾ ᚠᚱᚨᚾᛞᛁᛊ : ᛞᚨᚢᛃᛁᚦ ᛊᛖᛚᛒᚨᛉ ᛊᚨᛗᛟ
ᛖᚲᚨ ᚹᚨᛁᛏ ᚨᚾᚨᛁᚾᛟ
ᚦᚨᛏᚨ ᚾᛖ ᚨᛚᛞᚱᚨᛁᚷᛁᚾ ᛞᚨᚢᛃᛁᚦ
ᛞᛟᛗᚨᛉ ᚢᛗᛒᛁ ᛞᚨᚢᛞᚨᚾᛟ ᚺᚹᚨᚱᛃᚨᚾᛟ
Jesus reading the comments here is making me dread continuing the story and I'm not even at the halfway point.
How could they drop the ball so hard on this, has this been addressed or acknowledged by the devs at all?
Depends on how JP reacts usually. I don't think devs even care about complaining unless it's JP, even though we are also paying customers.
I just cleared the first trial, so slacking behind the curve for msq progress but this stood out to me. The twins have contributed nothing until now. I keep giving them an eyebrow whenever they appear on screen because they are starting to stand out with their lack of direction. No significant dialogue or points of conversation. No calls for decisions. They are just there. Urianger and Thancred aren't even on our team and they've been more engaging than the twins.
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