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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    *Assumes that the devs have not considered the feedback offered in the healer subforum, and ignores the very real possibility that it was considered, but determined to be detrimental to the game as a whole to implement based on the much larger amount of feedback the dev team has compared to us* There, I think I got that right. "They didn't do what I want, therefore they must have never even thought about me" is a shortsighted take.



    Other People: "This cake is delicious! It's not undercooked at all, but rather the way I like it, and the frosting is smooth and tasty."

    Me: "You must have bad taste buds. Wait, why is that baker ignoring me?"
    Striker you have still yet to present this “overwhelming amount of contrary feedback” as anything but a fancy in your head that you ardently believe square is following for zero reason when we have clear evidence of them making unpopular changes in the past

    I even gave you data on this in the other forum post

    AND AND AND if our feedback is so unpopular as you say then use those community managers that are supposed to be here to come and tell us that
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Striker you have still yet to present this “overwhelming amount of contrary feedback” as anything but a fancy in your head that you ardently believe square is following for zero reason when we have clear evidence of them making unpopular changes in the past

    I even gave you data on this in the other forum post

    AND AND AND if our feedback is so unpopular as you say then use those community managers that are supposed to be here to come and tell us that
    I've repeatedly pointed out that developers have far more data than we do. I'm not on the dev team, so I have no more clue than you or any of us do what that data actually says. I'm just trying to help people realize it exists and understand the feedback provided on the forums is only a minuscule slice of that data, which can explain why the dev team may go in directions other than what forum-goers suggest. Just asking people to keep an open mind and realize their personal feedback is not the center of the universe.

    AND AND AND if our feedback is so unpopular as you say then use those community managers that are supposed to be here to come and tell us that
    If the devs have read the feedback and just decided not to go with any of it, then they should SAY SO.
    As much as I'd prefer to see that to, given the attitude, the belittling, the condescension, and just the immaturity coming from so many of the complainers, I for one can't exactly blame them if they just let that group shout at the wind. Do people really think they can just be absolutely disrespectful, utterly trash the developers, and then expect to be treated respectfully in return?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    I've repeatedly pointed out that developers have far more data than we do. I'm not on the dev team, so I have no more clue than you or any of us do what that data actually says. I'm just trying to help people realize it exists and understand the feedback provided on the forums is only a minuscule slice of that data, which can explain why the dev team may go in directions other than what forum-goers suggest. Just asking people to keep an open mind and realize their personal feedback is not the center of the universe.




    As much as I'd prefer to see that to, given the attitude, the belittling, the condescension, and just the immaturity coming from so many of the complainers, I for one can't exactly blame them if they just let that group shout at the wind. Do people really think they can just be absolutely disrespectful, utterly trash the developers, and then expect to be treated respectfully in return?
    Striker your entire premise is “put up and shut up because the devs obviously have more feedback than us” if you were truly “we actually don’t know” then why do you never respond to people who oppose healer changes going “hey maybe the strikers are right and healers are unpopular” you only ever respond to people who don’t like the modern healers saying “actually squares data (that I can’t prove) says you are a minority, but also I’m totally neutral on this issue”, and it’s not because the strikers are the only ones passing their opinions off as fact, people who oppose the strike are just as likely to say “healers are totally fine and that’s a fact”

    And if it wasn’t clear people are fed up because they won’t respond to us, it they had tackled these complaints in 5.3 then people would have moved on by now, right now people shouldn’t be expected to respect the devs when they obviously don’t respect our feedback

    Also I’m still waiting for you to respond to that data I provided on the other thread
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