Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[koko-on-da-forumz]

Having played past the...

inevitable mid-story twist

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You're free to enjoy what you enjoy, but, like. Redoing Shadowbringers a third time, hinging the entire emotional impact of the plot on a character we just met a second ago SEVERAL TIMES, grinding the story to a halt to walk through the garden with an old lady for about four hours are not hallmarks of strong writing.

I like Wuk Lamat. The story was garbage before the twist and it was a different colour garbage after the twist.

[Tehmon]

That's the thing though, this is an entirely new continent that doesn't trade much with foreign lands, so the WoL isn't well known there. WoL isn't the huge hero that everyone bows down to as soon as they walk in the room. Lamat, however, IS well known, well liked and many people of the island view her as their future ruler. So SHE DOES have the spotlight. The expansion isn't about WoL. It's about Lamat. We just make sure things go well. We are not a "hero" here. We are "strong friends."

Then maybe they should've put Wuk Lamat front and center in all the advertisement.

Turns out, when you make the player character completely irrelevant, and don't let them form connections beyond one annoying turd of a lion lady, you can't really get invested about anything in the story because everything revolves around one (bad) character that isn't you. Imagine that.

[Dubont]

Yeah but for a game where we play as the WoL it's makes for a extremely grating play experiance and the friendship is extremely forced and as this and a lot of places show a lot of people do not find her likeable

I mean yeah she's cringey and all that, but also, this is HER expansion. Of course it's about her. Yes we play as the WoL but what world are we trying to save? We defeated literal gods. We defeated Zodiark. We defeated Zenos and the entire Garlean empire. There's no more world ending chaos going on that we have to stop (for now). So, despite being a huge powerful hero, we are not in a place where we are well known and are not needed to be such a hero at this time. It's actually a little refreshing after 14 years of being the main hero to finally sit back and be the super over powered sidekick for the story.

[Talonk]

The elderly 40 year old with many posts has spoken, FFXIV is saved.

I mean, the story sucked ass no 40 year old could tell you that listen to the youth too.

[Dubont]

Then maybe they should've put Wuk Lamat front and center in all the advertisement.

Turns out, when you make the player character completely irrelevant, and don't let them form connections beyond one annoying turd of a lion lady, you can't really get invested about anything in the story because everything revolves around one (bad) character that isn't you. Imagine that.

and yet we are not irrelevant. Many of the story events could not and would not have happened had we not been there. We are VERY relevant, we just aren't the focus. Think Pokemon. Ash wouldn't be able to do half of what he does if he didnt' have some OP Pikachu at his side. Yet...Ash is the focus of the story.

[jameseoakes]

I mean yeah she's cringey and all that, but also, this is HER expansion. Of course it's about her. Yes we play as the WoL but what world are we trying to save? We defeated literal gods. We defeated Zodiark. We defeated Zenos and the entire Garlean empire. There's no more world ending chaos going on that we have to stop (for now). So, despite being a huge powerful hero, we are not in a place where we are well known and are not needed to be such a hero at this time. It's actually a little refreshing after 14 years of being the main hero to finally sit back and be the super over powered sidekick for the story.

But why make her so utterally terrible and unpleasant to be around why build an entier expanstion around an outright bad character it's just not fun I paid money for this it should be good not outright bad

[Tethan]

this is HER expansion..

Bro, are you listening to yourself right now? Never before has an expansion focused on ONE character to the detriment of ALL others. Not HW, not SB, never. This is unprecedented.

If I had known this was going to be "The Lukewarm Adventures of Wut Lamat (and her ever faithful cheer squad - featuring the Warrior of Light from the award winning MMORPG Final Fantasy Online)" I would never have pre-ordered. The CGI teaser trailer frankly feels like false advertisement at this point.

EDIT: You know what? It's NOT her expansion. It is mine. I PAID for it. I should get to have FUN. Not spend the whole time propping up whatever intern they got to write this favorite OC (do not steal). I want off this ride.

[jameseoakes]

Bro, are you listening to yourself right now? Never before has an expansion focused on ONE character to the detriment of ALL others. Not HW, not SB, never. This is unprecedented.

If I had known this was going to be "The Lukewarm Adventures of Wut Lamat (and her ever faithful cheer squad - featuring the Warrior of Light from the award winning MMORPG Final Fantasy Online)" I would never have pre-ordered. The CGI teaser trailer frankly feels like false advertisement at this point.

Is Wuk even in the trailer?

[Abriael]

You're free to enjoy what you enjoy, but, like. Redoing Shadowbringers a third time, hinging the entire emotional impact of the plot on a character we just met a second ago SEVERAL TIMES, grinding the story to a halt to walk through the garden with an old lady for about four hours are not hallmarks of strong writing.

I like Wuk Lamat. The story was garbage before the twist and it was a different colour garbage after the twist.

Likewise, you're free to hate what you hate, but I tend not to give much credence to people who use extreme terms like "garbage." Hyperbole has never been very suitable to make valid points.

[SongOfTheWind]

Bro, are you listening to yourself right now? Never before has an expansion focused on ONE character to the detriment of ALL others. Not HW, not SB, never. This is unprecedented.

If I had known this was going to be "The Lukewarm Adventures of Wut Lamat (and her ever faithful cheer squad - featuring the Warrior of Light from the award winning MMORPG Final Fantasy Online)" I would never have pre-ordered. The CGI teaser trailer frankly feels like false advertisement at this point.

It makes it so much more ironic how they chose Erenvile, WoL and G’raha of all people for 3 buildings promo in LA