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  1. #71
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    Boblawblah's Avatar
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    I didn't really read any of the posts here due to possible spoilers, so apologies if this has already been covered, but I think the moment I decided to just let go and enjoy the story was with

    the conversation/duel with Gulool Ja Ja, and when he asks us to help his daughter. He speaks to us as one legend to another, and it really solidified in my mind that the WoL has grown so much, that at this point, they're able to mentor other would be world leaders and help them grow. The WoL can shape entire country's futures now not just by killing everything, but by simply supporting someone at the right time in the right way.

    I've just gotten flight in the 1st/2nd zone, so that's where I'm at now, but I'm enjoying it.
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  2. #72
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tethan View Post
    Just finished up to first trial and frankly, there is no dynamic between ANYONE. This is the story of "Wuk Lamat does stuff and everyone else claps".

    Why are the twins even here? You could replace them both with cardbord cutouts and nothing would change. I genuinely forget Krile was here, she's had like 5 spoken lines so far. Erenville is just here to point us to next objective. Koana is okay, but once again, everything he does is in service to glorifying Wuk Lamat.

    My poor WoL has been completely lobotomized, all he can do is smile and nod and agree with whatever Wuk Lamat wants. Like I know the nodding is a joke but like... I've never felt so out of sync with my own character before?
    Wuk Lamat is basically how Warrior mains see themselves lol
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  4. #73
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    I agree on the Scions just being set dressing. Who is this red Alphinaud and what did she do to Alisae? She was the main reason I found Stormblood bearable and now she's just barely present. I can't help constantly feeling like I would much rather be with the other party because at least I would get to hang out with Urianger and Thancred, who seem to at least kind of still be themselves.
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  5. #74
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    Malthir Durnith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I didn't really read any of the posts here due to possible spoilers, so apologies if this has already been covered, but I think the moment I decided to just let go and enjoy the story was with

    the conversation/duel with Gulool Ja Ja, and when he asks us to help his daughter. He speaks to us as one legend to another, and it really solidified in my mind that the WoL has grown so much, that at this point, they're able to mentor other would be world leaders and help them grow. The WoL can shape entire country's futures now not just by killing everything, but by simply supporting someone at the right time in the right way.

    I've just gotten flight in the 1st/2nd zone, so that's where I'm at now, but I'm enjoying it.
    The problem I have with the fight is,
    He's a king of a low civ country we kill gods but it's a tie...........
    Other than that, I agree with the concept of that idea but it really needed to happen about 2 hours earlier, like after we arrive and he spars estinein and we go eat, that night is when that whole dialogue should have happened, instead we've been running round wiping noses for 2 zones before you hit that point.
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    Last edited by Malthir; 06-30-2024 at 08:02 AM.

  6. #75
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    The problem I have with the fight is,
    He's a king of a low civ country we kill gods but it's a tie...........
    Other than that, I agree with the concept of that idea but it really needed to happen about 2 hours earlier, like after we arrive and he spars estinein and we go eat, that night is when that whole dialogue should have happened, instead we've been running round wiping noses for 2 zones before you hit that point.
    I agree with your point on the fight entirely. I just sort of have to excuse it in my own mind as the WoL taking it easy on him even though they give us nothing in the story to suggest it.
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  7. #76
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    I agree with your point on the fight entirely. I just sort of have to excuse it in my own mind as the WoL taking it easy on him even though they give us nothing in the story to suggest it.
    this is basically what I've had to say to myself, WoL is very much taking it easy, and doesn't particularly take any of the "villains" seriously.
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  8. #77
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    This is even worse because we aren’t weakling and fledging adventurers. None of the antagonists are intimidating and when one threatens us I am not sure why we just don’t give the smack down and be done with this farce. It’s all so nonsensical - it already feels like our MCs have no real point in being there. Oddly solving all of Wuks boring problems as a foreign savior while she accepts credit and praise.
    I literally said that to my friends today. Just once, just... ONCE, I would love for us to finally throw our weight around as WoL to all these people.
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  9. #78
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    ZediaAkula's Avatar
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    Zedia Akula
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I am also very disappointed. I started skipping CSs because it just takes too long to do anything...the pacing is really bad. It's just hitting all the wrong buttons for me. I felt like I did when I started XVI. Two hours of absolutely boring CSs, stereotypical characters that have been out of vogue since the 1930s, it was just so bad. I got out of the city, did the first couple of quests in the first zone, and quit the game. I wish I hadn't pre-ordered it. I had no investment in anything in XVI, and that's how I feel about Dawntrail, thus far (not even halfway in). I do want to find out about Krile's grandpa, but other than that, nothing. Yoshi-P is disappointing me. I just don't know if I can survive another Lyse/Stormblood (I think Wuk is worse than Lyse thus far).
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  10. #79
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    RulerOfPotaoes's Avatar
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    Drafus Thicc'rod
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The main issue is that we are not the main character of this story. Us the players, in a rpg story.

    The WoL is a side character that hangs in the back just silently nodding every now and then. Seriously even when you're walking with the other characters the WoL is in the back of the group.

    And the only interaction the group has with the WoL or acknowledgement that we're even there as well. Is when we get asked an opinion on something.
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  11. #80
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    Edwin Saebeorn
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I didn't really read any of the posts here due to possible spoilers, so apologies if this has already been covered, but I think the moment I decided to just let go and enjoy the story was with

    the conversation/duel with Gulool Ja Ja, and when he asks us to help his daughter. He speaks to us as one legend to another, and it really solidified in my mind that the WoL has grown so much, that at this point, they're able to mentor other would be world leaders and help them grow. The WoL can shape entire country's futures now not just by killing everything, but by simply supporting someone at the right time in the right way.

    I've just gotten flight in the 1st/2nd zone, so that's where I'm at now, but I'm enjoying it.
    Yeah this guy is gettin it
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