The Chimera, the Monk and the Guard

[Leo_Hart]

There wasnt blms yet even then, and thm still had same spells as when they released ifrit for first time, so dont know what changes you talkin about, thm was the same since they released ifrit up till the time people started bringing it out to ifrit way months after. And yes there was patches in betwen that time but thm didnt changed much in those.

when Ifrit frist release, thm is OLD THM with spell nothing deal much to Ifrit even DoT(bio poison dia) cant cover up Ifrit regen. THM been removed aoe Sacrifice, prolly still good wiht one THM healer but not as a main dps at that patch.

[HokSeven]

What I was thinking is in all honestly SE was NOT testing their content before release (mainly for balance, not bugs issues)... Otherwise we would not have gotten the ONLY tank job in the game so screwed up that another job, WAR, is better than it.

This goes for the other content sadly. But, they really can't do anything about it. What do they want them to do? Force other jobs to be taken? Other ppl who like those set ups (BLMx4 or BRDx4) will get upset and complain, and they can rightfully do so just like yourself.

You want it so that they make all job viable? Sure, who's to say they aren't? people really are not trying to figure it out and those who did will tell you that they did it with other setups....

You know what is promoting this stuff? What is killing every dungeon and making it into a marathon? The damn speed runs. I don't know who is in the dev team promoting and liking this, and how is Yoshi-P (who always says that no idea pass without me green lighting it) green lighting this.

I said it before that SE could make those dungeons into a track field with hurdles to hit the jump button. I believe it'll be more interesting than the current.

[Chardrizard]

People will still go with least resistance path. Speed run or not, you are delusional if you thinks otherwise, stack classes happens in alot of MMOs, it will never goes away especially with a game that lets you change classes iin a fly.

Regarding SE not testing, people have done speedrun with party consists of every single jobb and 2 whm. People just doesnt do it bc it takes alot more skill to pull speedrun with those setup and its a scientific fact that alot of ppl that thinks they are better than tthey actually are, alot of the complainers never really succeeded speedrun.

[Buddhsie]

its a scientific fact that alot of ppl that thinks they are better than tthey actually are.

You should publish a paper on this!

[knite23]

People will still go with least resistance path. Speed run or not, you are delusional if you thinks otherwise, stack classes happens in alot of MMOs, it will never goes away especially with a game that lets you change classes iin a fly.

Regarding SE not testing, people have done speedrun with party consists of every single jobb and 2 whm. People just doesnt do it bc it takes alot more skill to pull speedrun with those setup and its a scientific fact that alot of ppl that thinks they are better than tthey actually are, alot of the complainers never really succeeded speedrun.

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[knite23]

only thing i will say is, if you complain about playing the job you want in any battle then you should make your own parties or find an ls that will let u come on what you want etc. ive done ever fight with ever mele class and i can continue to....(you should make better friends)

[MoonKeeperr]

i agree also that my monk has been push out of this fry, for anything Primal fights and such.

[Klefth]

The main issue I've seen regarding this are the self AoEs they've put on stuff. STOP THAT. SE needs to do away with that BS. I really don't get what the point of those is. At all. It is because of that crap that the only stuff that I get invited to are DH, moogles and, sometimes, Ifrit. Anything else is apparently BRD/BLM/WHM/WAR onry.

[Onizuka]

Hello again.

In the past weeks I was able to find a couple of parties bold enough to challenge Cutter's Cry with a Monk in party, and, like I illustrated in my last journal post, for the very first time not only I could see the Myrmidon Princess fall (finally!)...




...but with that setup we arrived at the chimera and I could challenge the beast for the first time, too. Look at my Tiger Subligar while I incapacitate its tail!




I'm bringing this Topic back up with this experience to encourage other adventurers out there to try different setups and not aiming only for that badly conceived Speed Run/AoE Feast/Same Jobs stuff.
It takes some patience, but in the end I think it's a lot more fun.

One day I'll properly defeat the chimera and avenge the Darklight Raiders. Good luck, fellow Monks out there!

[Almalexia]

I have been using MNK to fight the Chimera since there was a Chimera to speak of. If others still do not see the value of MNK on Chimera, then it is through either inexperience or deficiency of the player using MNK rather than the MNK job itself or the design of the fight.

Fists of Fire (which, in your screenshot, I noticed you aren't using) grants MNK the second-highest potential damage on Chimera behind BLM. If we melee had no reason to move, things would be the other way around. However, we have to move or we'll die--that's the nature of this encounter. Of course, every BLM I've seen is not the best BLM I've ever seen in the same way every MNK I've seen is not the best MNK I've ever seen, so numbers are flexible and sometimes I surprise even myself.

If you want to make a ludicrously dramatic thread about an unwanted job at Chimera, try the DPS WAR.