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    Picto sweeps

    Bit of a meme but

    Red mage = one who uses all the magical types only uses 4
    Picto uses 8 different elements
    Summoner = Guy who summons
    Got reskinned summon
    Picto got Moogle and Madeen
    Black mage = the open ended job
    Got reworked to have a linear rotation
    Picto has a far more open rotation currently

    I just think this is funny to point out lol
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    Also kinda funny that in PVP PCT seemed to get the best aspect of the other casters, combined, lol.
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    I mean, I'm playing Picto and it's just gigabroken.
    It's highly flexible, downright insane burst (it literally has tools to push 6 gcds worth of damage into its burst phase), it has strong party-wide mitigation, it has a good party damage steroid...
    It's as if someone grabbed Samurai, made it more flexible and then gave it Mug and Mantra and called it a day.
    SMN is SMN, it's super easy with a rez so some people will still pick it for prog, BLM can get its potencies adjusted, even if it feels horrible to play... but what the hell is RDM supposed to do now? It has way less damage, it's worse on a 2-min meta and even its support is worse than Picto (weaker barrier, no self-barrier, weaker damage steroid). Yea, it has a rez, but that rez was useless in body-check-walker...
    Did they even consider the niches of every job? Does SE hate RDM because it came out in Stormblood and it reminds them that Stormblood was the best expansion? I don't even play RDM and I'm upset but how horrid this balancing issue is. RDM really is the MCH of casters, SE just has this compulsion to make it the worst caster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    I mean, I'm playing Picto and it's just gigabroken.
    It's highly flexible, downright insane burst (it literally has tools to push 6 gcds worth of damage into its burst phase), it has strong party-wide mitigation, it has a good party damage steroid...
    It's as if someone grabbed Samurai, made it more flexible and then gave it Mug and Mantra and called it a day.
    SMN is SMN, it's super easy with a rez so some people will still pick it for prog, BLM can get its potencies adjusted, even if it feels horrible to play... but what the hell is RDM supposed to do now? It has way less damage, it's worse on a 2-min meta and even its support is worse than Picto (weaker barrier, no self-barrier, weaker damage steroid). Yea, it has a rez, but that rez was useless in body-check-walker...
    Did they even consider the niches of every job? Does SE hate RDM because it came out in Stormblood and it reminds them that Stormblood was the best expansion? I don't even play RDM and I'm upset but how horrid this balancing issue is. RDM really is the MCH of casters, SE just has this compulsion to make it the worst caster.
    Square needs to buff RDM significantly above SMN but well behind PCT and BLM

    PCT has completely murdered BLM’s niche of the power caster but RDM doesn’t necessarily have to compete to with PCT since PCT can easily compete for the second melee spot. RDM’s problem is the fact that its damage doesn’t justify its complexity over SMN

    PCT is basically a melee at this point


    On the wider point overall PCT is too strong and needs to be nerfed, it’s just the best of every world at this point with literally zero downsides
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 06-29-2024 at 07:39 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    I mean, I'm playing Picto and it's just gigabroken.
    It's highly flexible, downright insane burst (it literally has tools to push 6 gcds worth of damage into its burst phase), it has strong party-wide mitigation, it has a good party damage steroid...
    It's as if someone grabbed Samurai, made it more flexible and then gave it Mug and Mantra and called it a day.
    SMN is SMN, it's super easy with a rez so some people will still pick it for prog, BLM can get its potencies adjusted, even if it feels horrible to play... but what the hell is RDM supposed to do now? It has way less damage, it's worse on a 2-min meta and even its support is worse than Picto (weaker barrier, no self-barrier, weaker damage steroid). Yea, it has a rez, but that rez was useless in body-check-walker...
    Did they even consider the niches of every job? Does SE hate RDM because it came out in Stormblood and it reminds them that Stormblood was the best expansion? I don't even play RDM and I'm upset but how horrid this balancing issue is. RDM really is the MCH of casters, SE just has this compulsion to make it the worst caster.
    I think the mentality of why they overtuned picto was because it has no true oGCD on CD. You have to stop and cast for 3 seconds to prepare your oGCDs (this is already a good enough identity to force the job around.)

    But gave it a raid wide buff, spread shield (I kinda like how the cd of it works) and tons of personal damage. Probably also because it has no res tax though it really should have a utility tax. I'm more shocked at how open the rotation is like sure there will probably be a rigid burst rotation but it's super damage priority choice on abilities over you use this during the burst at least below 100.

    It's already my pick for probably the best job in the game, at least it is the best caster (BLM will need to rework a lot of its potencies.)
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    think Picto will get a nerf.., most new dps are over powered at launch, to keep them interesting.., but eventually get nerfed after savage is out
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    Blm > Pct > Smn =/> Rdm is how it should be
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    Blm > Pct > Smn =/> Rdm is how it should be
    RDM should be well above SMN. SMN is basically a physical ranged job without cast bars, and should have a mobility tax just like a phys ranged job has.
    Otherwise you get EW, and RDM is never played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    Blm > Pct > Smn =/> Rdm is how it should be
    Until SMN gets more difficult it should have the lowest damage. RDM needs to be rewarded for having a much busier rotation then SMN.
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    Honestly there is no real reason why PCT needs to be weaker than BLM

    It should be

    PCT/BLM>>>RDM>>>>>>SMN

    PCT’s only utility over BLM is tempra grassa (which is really good) but honestly BLM and PCT could share SGE/SCH’s balance. The one with the raid buffs pulls ahead in high end groups but the selfish one is better in lower end groups (ie PCT rDPS>BLM aDPS) because honestly at this point given what has to be shoved into its burst window it’s arguable PCT is the harder class now

    It’s just too big of a gap, BLM is too weak and PCT is too strong
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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