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    ArtemisSeraphin's Avatar
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    Artemis Seraphin
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Worse than I could have imagined

    No, my worst fears were not confirmed with DT release. Instead, I found nightmares worse than I could have imagined.

    I cannot help but think that the job designs for Healers are meant for us to hate them, meant for us to dislike playing the jobs so much that we don't just quit healer but quit the game.

    I've been playing 2.0 EA. I feel like this game isn't "for" me anymore. The devs are showing me & players like me (players who have supported the game for a decade, who are the REASON there was even a "comeback success") the door & telling us, "Thanks for all the money but we got the subscribers we ACTUALLY want now, we don't need you now."

    I don't feel like my wants are unreasonable b/c they used to be standard parts of the game that have been ripped out.

    What I want:
    Distinct Job Identity. YES, I KNOW that it is apparently coming in 8.0. But Healers have been asking for this since 5.0. This is the 2nd time we've been promised "next expac" only to be told, once the next expac arrives, to wait another 2.5 years. If we get the return of job identity in 8.0, we will have been waiting for 7 YEARS.

    At least 1 shield & 1 pure healer w/ a higher skill ceiling. Low skill floors are fine, but some of us WANT a challenge & WANT to take the time to learn optimizations. "Go play savage." I do; I do blind prog. But they keep lowering both the skill floor & the skill ceiling to the point of absurdity.

    "Go play dps if you want a rotation." But I don't want that. I want the challenge of managing heals while doing damage. I want something more complex than spamming Malefic when not healing.

    I've been called elitist for these requests. I don't think it's elitist to want something that used to be a given in the game. I just want what was stolen from us healers returned. I'm not asking for anything more than that.

    I'm sorry, it just feels like outright maltreatment. It feels like constructive dismissal; making the environment so intolerable that the people have no choice but to quit.

    My total playtime is thousands of days. 1027 days, 23 hours, 35 minutes. I love this game; I've met friends, loved ones, and comrades in this game. This game was my escape during some of the hardest periods of my life. This game has brought the best people into my life. I love this game. I've defended & supported the devs the entire time. I didn't get upset or angry about the delay of EW. Didn't get cranky when they stopped adding 3 new dungeons per patch. Didn't get huffy when there was no deep dungeon in SHB. I just said, "The devs have a lot on their plate & are doing their best."

    I love this game. I just don't think it loves me anymore. This might be the end of road. I have an obligation to fulfill with a group already, but I do not know if I will stay past fulfilling that promise. I want to leave before the good memories become infected.
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    Healer's requests are not unreasonable. We are merely asking for what was taken from us to be returned. We've been waiting over 5 years for our jobs to regain the complexity & identity they once had. We're now being asked to wait over 2 more years. Healer jobs & their players are being ignored & neglected by the devs.
    "Play Ultimate" is not a viable solution: we want to enjoy the ENTIRE game, just like everyone else gets to! DPS can use their full kit in 100% of content. Why should healers be told they only get to use their full kit in five total fights? We just want the same consideration other roles get.

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    V'els Wen
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It does seem to be in very bad taste to me to remove AST decision making from random cards, add a faux-DoT to Scholar that requires no upkeep when players have been asking for some of their old DoTs back for years, and give Sage a taste of that management back in the media tour only to take it away in the final build. One does have to question if the job design team has experienced playing healer in content they've already cleared; are they aware of how sleep-inducing it is to have next to no decision-making in their gameplay beyond maintaining a single DoT?

    I desperately hope more is added to these classes. And that this is not the final version of Astrologian's cards...
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by velswen View Post
    I desperately hope more is added to these classes. And that this is not the final version of Astrologian's cards...
    Wouldn't count on it. When Summoner was butchered last expansion, posters were saying the same thing, that more would be added to give it depth. All they got was a bahamut skin.
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    I'm having a lot of fun with SCH so far! Maybe you should play another role if healing isn't fun for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    I'm having a lot of fun with SCH so far! Maybe you should play another role if healing isn't fun for you?
    Even you acknowledge every healer plays the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Even you acknowledge every healer plays the same.
    I mean that's the general consensus of people who are upset with the healer role, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    I mean that's the general consensus of people who are upset with the healer role, right?
    Apparently it's the consensus with people who love this slop too.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Wouldn't count on it. When Summoner was butchered last expansion, posters were saying the same thing, that more would be added to give it depth. All they got was a bahamut skin.
    CBU3 stands for Creatively Bankrupt Unit 3. Change my mind.
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I've had the same feeling of being tossed aside by the dev team for quite a while now and I don't even main healer. I can't even begin to imagine what it would feel playing support, especially healer, in this game those days.
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    V'els Wen
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    I'm having a lot of fun with SCH so far! Maybe you should play another role if healing isn't fun for you?
    I still enjoy playing Scholar but that doesn't mean the job couldn't use some more interesting additions!
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