Please just give us a non-graphics update option for DT

[Enclavex]

I can't speak for others but I'd be willing to sacrifice new hairstyles for getting my old char, though that's just me.

But I genuinely wonder, have the skull shapes changed so much that it would take two whole pipelines to adjust a hair model to fit the old skulls? They need to be adjusted for the different races too after all. Would that be such a big extra step?

Like I said, you might be willing to cut the hairstyles in half but I'm certain you're in the extreme minority in that.

Also it only takes very minor changes in skull shapes to make things look weird, they'd absolutely need to have 2 pipelines otherwise you'd have people coming in here complaining that some hairstyle that they like looks off on their character when they use the old face. There's a reason that they didn't make the old graphics and the new graphics a toggle, it just adds more work for them and most people would like resources to go to new content.

[Loggos]

Like I said, you might be willing to cut the hairstyles in half but I'm certain you're in the extreme minority in that.

Also it only takes very minor changes in skull shapes to make things look weird, they'd absolutely need to have 2 pipelines otherwise you'd have people coming in here complaining that some hairstyle that they like looks off on their character when they use the old face. There's a reason that they didn't make the old graphics and the new graphics a toggle, it just adds more work for them and most people would like resources to go to new content.

Well but then that could still be the compromise the devs offer: old models but at the cost of new hairstyle updates.
If they want the new stuff then they'll have to toggle to the new model.
Then we'd at least have something. That would be more than we have now in that particular regard because at the moment it's nothing.

You worry about people complaining if they don't get future hair styles. I suppose you fear a "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" type of situation?

But this is an all-or-nothing perspective I personally disagree with. I think a compromise/the middle ground can be a viable option.

Right now even more people are unhappy because they don't have the old character models anymore. I think people, who'd be unhappy about old models not getting new stuff, would always inherently be a subset of that group. It will most likely not be 100%.

So regaining access to old models, even if there's no new stuff for them, would probably already decrease the number of unhappy people.

The other alternative could be a thorough character creator overhaul with more options, esp. since the CC is terribly outdated for a modern day MMO, as well. I think this is an area which ressources need to be allocated to anyway. Imo 8.0 is really (too) late for that endeavor. That would be around 2027 if I'm not mistaken.

[aph]

Well but then that could still be the compromise the devs offer: old models but at the cost of new hairstyle updates.
If they want the new stuff then they'll have to toggle to the new model.
Then we'd at least have something. That would be more than we have now in that particular regard because at the moment it's nothing.

You worry about people complaining if they don't get future hair styles. I suppose you fear a "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" type of situation?

But this is an all-or-nothing perspective I personally disagree with. I think a compromise/the middle ground can be a viable option.

Right now even more people are unhappy because they don't have the old character models anymore. I think people, who'd be unhappy about old models not getting new stuff, would always inherently be a subset of that group. It will most likely not be 100%.

So regaining access to old models, even if there's no new stuff for them, would probably already decrease the number of unhappy people.

The other alternative could be a thorough character creator overhaul with more options, esp. since the CC is terribly outdated for a modern day MMO, as well. I think this is an area which ressources need to be allocated to anyway. Imo 8.0 is really (too) late for that endeavor. That would be around 2027 if I'm not mistaken.

THIS. all I want is access to the old models 100%. i don't care if I have to play the game with the updated graphics, as long as I can have my boy back they can do whatever tf they want.