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    Asklepiooze Gazel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Hard disagree. I don't want to lose niche optimisations on 2-target large bosses like p1/2 of TEA and p6 of DSR just because someone thinks it's not very caster-like to be in melee range.
    Oh right how come I missed that one, please do NOT change Art of War, other than what Aravell has mentioned above, I also don't want to lose the niche optimisation between Lv46 and Lv53 where Art of War is a gain on one with auto attacks (as it has the same potency as Ruin I but instant cast so no delay on AA).

    SCH has the highest AA among the healers so you should be in melee range for that whenever possible for optimisation, please don't try to take away our fun just because you don't want to do so.
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chajii View Post
    Oh right how come I missed that one, please do NOT change Art of War, other than what Aravell has mentioned above, I also don't want to lose the niche optimisation between Lv46 and Lv53 where Art of War is a gain on one with auto attacks (as it has the same potency as Ruin I but instant cast so no delay on AA).

    SCH has the highest AA among the healers so you should be in melee range for that whenever possible for optimisation, please don't try to take away our fun just because you don't want to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Hard disagree. I don't want to lose niche optimisations on 2-target large bosses like p1/2 of TEA and p6 of DSR just because someone thinks it's not very caster-like to be in melee range.
    Changed! Like I said, it was just a question of flavor. I actually didn't even know that AoW tech existed.
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    Last edited by Iedarus; 06-27-2024 at 06:18 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

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    Eira Landale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Changed! Like I said, it was just a question of flavor. I actually didn't even know that AoW tech existed.
    Things like that also help when you want to avoid being turned to face a target on cast and disrupting your movement if the mechanics call for it. Art of War and Dyskrasia may be a DPS loss over Ruin 2 and Toxikon as mobility tools, but they're also a gain over not casting anything at all to keep moving where you're trying to go when something's close enough. Oschon or the Antlion come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Things like that also help when you want to avoid being turned to face a target on cast and disrupting your movement if the mechanics call for it. Art of War and Dyskrasia may be a DPS loss over Ruin 2 and Toxikon as mobility tools, but they're also a gain over not casting anything at all to keep moving where you're trying to go when something's close enough. Oschon or the Antlion come to mind.
    Wow, why did I not think of this? I would just Ruin II but still sometimes eat the petrification. Let's keep this a secret from the skill expression police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Wow, why did I not think of this? I would just Ruin II but still sometimes eat the petrification. Let's keep this a secret from the skill expression police.
    Yeah, petrification stuff is another time I end up doing that. Any time I see the eye in a new encounter, or one I haven't been to in ages, I just turn immediately and start spamming the aoe instead until I learn the safe last second turn timing.
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