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  1. #241
    Player Rekh's Avatar
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    Fresh Tree
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    If you want to play an actual healer (not a healing tank) and makes it your main job, you're more than welcome.
    I have to add /sarcasm to my "I'll make youtube/twitch channel to bash players with clickbait videos." This was meant as a reflection on square enix not banning a streamer streaming ffxiv while going to parsing websites and stating "this player is an npc, he isn't even playing the game."
    As for people's champion I was referring to the fact that I'd side with the community, not with some streamer who needs anger management rehab.
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  2. #242
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    Hellebore_Ghrian's Avatar
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Apologies then.
    (3)
    Healer? What do you even need one for?

  3. #243
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    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekh View Post
    I have to add /sarcasm to my "I'll make youtube/twitch channel to bash players with clickbait videos." This was meant as a reflection on square enix not banning a streamer streaming ffxiv while going to parsing websites and stating "this player is an npc, he isn't even playing the game."
    As for people's champion I was referring to the fact that I'd side with the community, not with some streamer who needs anger management rehab.
    Calling people bots and crybabies as well. The audacity of players who play casual content not having ultimate clears when giving feedback about... casual content.

    They either do not meet the ultimate standard... or they are too good to understand the true casual players plight. Literally no winning with these people. They will shift the goalpost to suit them as needed. Anything to keep healers the same for reasons I don't know.

    He states nobody cares about the dungeons.. well the pages upon pages of feedback about the dungeons begs to differ xD
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    Last edited by Aelin_Ashryver; 06-24-2024 at 05:13 AM.

  4. #244
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I want to point out that the person who made the list apparently took like 3 days to make it, implying they went to bed twice and never put this unhinged idea in the trash upon waking up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  5. #245
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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    I don't follow any content creator, because I don't really enjoy any of them or their content.
    I also don't really know what the healerstrike or really, at it's logical, hard core about.
    I have been following the conversation about halers from the sideline for long time. From sidline becaus I play tank, and I am reasonably happy. The usual opinions:
    "More dps buttons!" "More need to heal for real!" - are familiar to me. I have sympathy for you. I think sometimes these are expressed in kinda bi-polar manner, but that's just my dumb opinion.

    So I don't know what your strike is about. But I would assume that the subject is important to many, 400 pages and going strong you know. And now problem is that some muppets are not making your (the striking healers) strike look so good?
    If I was healer on strike... and I feel like the publicity was paramount to the cause... I might suggest the most eloquent and willing communicator of my fellow strikers to write press-release kind of summary. Make it big and annoying and the first thing anyone sees when they ope the thread. To help the lazy laggards like current myself to understand the thing you think is super important right.

    If the only answer is "read +3 pages of the thread", thread which is stream of people's variable opinions, I kinda think you have failed. I don't wanna call anyone whiny over this... but it's not the content creators' job to be your flattering megaphone. Surely you new this is not unanimous stance you are championing? And I wanna be very clear, I don't disagree with the strike because I cannot (cant agree/disagree if i dont understand, you see).

    Anyway, good luck, you can still fix this you striking healers you. But don't expect random internet soup to be your ally. That's not how any of this goes.
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 06-24-2024 at 05:34 AM.

  6. #246
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    I don't follow any content creator, because I don't really enjoy any of them or their content.
    I also don't really know what the healerstrike or really, at it's logical, hard core about.
    I have been following the conversation about halers from the sideline for long time. From sidline becaus I play tank, and I am reasonably happy. The usual opinions:
    "More dps buttons!" "More need to heal for real!" - are familiar to me. I have sympathy for you. I think sometimes these are expressed in kinda bi-polar manner, but that's just my dumb opinion.

    So I don't know what your strike is about. But I would assume that the subject is important to many, 400 pages and going strong you know. And now problem is that some muppets are not making your (the striking healers) strike look so good?
    If I was healer on strike... and I feel like the publicity was paramount to the cause... I might suggest the most eloquent and willing communicator of my fellow strikers to write press-release kind of summary. Make it big and annoying and the first thing anyone sees when they ope the thread. To help the lazy laggards like current myself to understand the thing you think is super important right.

    If the only answer is "read +3 pages of the thread", thread which is stream of people's variable opinions, I kinda think you have failed. I don't wanna call anyone whiny over this... but it's not the content creators' job to be your flattering megaphone. Surely you new this is not unanimous stance you are championing? And I wanna be very clear, I don't disagree with the strike because I cannot (cant agree/disagree if i dont understand, you see).

    Anyway, good luck, you can still fix this you striking healers you. But don't expect random internet soup to be your ally. That's not how any of this goes.
    Again. The issue is not that the streamers disagree with the strike. The issue is that a specific streamer, on stream, pulled up the tomestone.gg profile of the person who started the thread and went on a rant insulting them and calling casual players bots.
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  7. #247
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    I don't follow any content creator, because I don't really enjoy any of them or their content.
    I also don't really know what the healerstrike or really, at it's logical, hard core about.
    I have been following the conversation about halers from the sideline for long time. From sidline becaus I play tank, and I am reasonably happy. The usual opinions:
    "More dps buttons!" "More need to heal for real!" - are familiar to me. I have sympathy for you. I think sometimes these are expressed in kinda bi-polar manner, but that's just my dumb opinion.

    So I don't know what your strike is about. But I would assume that the subject is important to many, 400 pages and going strong you know. And now problem is that some muppets are not making your (the striking healers) strike look so good?
    If I was healer on strike... and I feel like the publicity was paramount to the cause... I might suggest the most eloquent and willing communicator of my fellow strikers to write press-release kind of summary. Make it big and annoying and the first thing anyone sees when they ope the thread. To help the lazy laggards like current myself to understand the thing you think is super important right.

    If the only answer is "read +3 pages of the thread", thread which is stream of people's variable opinions, I kinda think you have failed. I don't wanna call anyone whiny over this... but it's not the content creators' job to be your flattering megaphone. Surely you new this is not unanimous stance you are championing? And I wanna be very clear, I don't disagree with the strike because I cannot (cant agree/disagree if i dont understand, you see).

    Anyway, good luck, you can still fix this you striking healers you. But don't expect random internet soup to be your ally. That's not how any of this goes.
    This is pretty tone deaf. You should have at least read posts before you chimed in.
    You should be able to post on the forums without Arthars pulling up your logs in front of 1,000+ viewers to trash talk you. Especially because he's an ambassador of the game and was officially endorsed on the media tour by CBU3 and given an interview with Yoshi-P.
    You should also be able to post about your opinions without a weirdo compiling a spreadsheet of your "casual score" as well.

    I don't really care about the healers strike and I'm not paticularly upset about the state of healers as they are now but man, it is extremely cringe to harass people for posting feedback on the feedback forums.
    And since it's media tour streamers doing this, it looks like SE and Yoshi-P endorse this behavior by being associated with and standing with them.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 06-24-2024 at 05:49 AM.

  8. #248
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I've been linked this list today: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...75lI_y/pubhtml

    CC orbiters having a normal one again.
    This seems like a violation of ToS. Who created this list?
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  9. #249
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    This seems like a violation of ToS. Who created this list?
    You can easily find the person's character by following the link to the casual calculator. The character's name is filled in by default and they also link to their Xitter account.
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  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    This seems like a violation of ToS. Who created this list?
    Well if you click on the casual score calculator they literally put their name right there.

    Also, they moved to Cerberus in the last two days for whatever reason.
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