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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I don't consider it a tantrum or looking for attention. There are valid concerns. I get bored sometimes myself. I'm just disappointed to see the lack of commitment. I've healed for 10 years now and I'm still enjoying the role. I've had to adjust to a lot over the years but I'm still satisified by the experience. So I'll be playing healer, not to spite anyone, but because it's still fun for me.

    However, if I were as unhappy as many are, I wouldn't touch the role. I wouldn't level it. I wouldn't heal for friends. I would politely explain to them that the role no longer was something I was interested in and I would hope they would respect my wishes. If my goal is to not contribute to SE's numbers for healers, I would do everything possible to not do that. I'd have to sacrifice some things. If there's a neat reward for all 100s, then I would miss out on that. I wouldn't get all the relics like I usually do. I wouldn't have a class to use certain gear on. If my friends only had room for a healer role, I may not get to join them. That would all suck but if I'm that unhappy, then I would commit. So many are saying they will only avoid DF and even in this thread you can see people planning to level their healers in alternative ways. Those things completely undermine any sort of movement that's trying to spread.
    No one would have to miss out on the rewards for all 100s. They would just want to wait until later in Dawntrail to get it because the strike is unlikely to last indefinitely. Either SE responds within a couple of months or they don't.

    Otherwise, I mostly agree with you. I still have fun healing so I'll continue to do. Those who don't should stop healing altogether instead of making exceptions. By making exceptions, they're effectively affirming what YoshiP said about playing healer in more difficult content would more satisfying to them and so they're okay with things.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No one would have to miss out on the rewards for all 100s. They would just want to wait until later in Dawntrail to get it because the strike is unlikely to last indefinitely. Either SE responds within a couple of months or they don't.

    Otherwise, I mostly agree with you. I still have fun healing so I'll continue to do. Those who don't should stop healing altogether instead of making exceptions. By making exceptions, they're effectively affirming what YoshiP said about playing healer in more difficult content would more satisfying to them and so they're okay with things.
    They're not asking for anyone to miss out on all 100s rewards
    'Leveling a job' =/= 'Playing a job'; there are a multitude of ways to level jobs "passively" without using them in any multiplayer activities at all...
    and even opening up the scope to FATEs and PvP I personally wouldn't consider 'playing the jobs' since the skill ceiling is so low in the former it's on the floor and the latter uses a unique kit not involved with PvE at all

    and the issue with the 'go play ultimates' for "more engaging" content is graphically illustrated here
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...IVHEALERSTRIKE
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Lmao you guys are actually hilarious. Do us a favor and put your whining in the actual thread. Leaving the healer role IS a way of getting attention. Streamers talking about it is attention. Getting 400 likes and 500 pages is attention. Your post right here is attention. But keep talking to yourself about how a strike is simultaneously outrageous and yet not enough.

    Were you in the benchmark threads telling them they're not doing enough? If I am not mistaken that movement came from forums. Was it a tantrum? Perhaps. It still got results. So permit me to find feedback going on ITT to be totally irrelevant. Well, not totally because after all it is clearly self soothing.
    If you level the role, use it in DF with friends and with statics, you aren't leaving the role. That is still going to contribute to SE's numbers on who is utilizing the role.

    Put yourself in SE's shoes for a minute. They hear about all of this. But they look at their metrics and the data doesn't match up. How seriously are they going to take things if their data of role usage contradicts it? Most classes that got a revamp are those that people weren't playing at all or even leveling. Those are solid metrics that would speak to them about player unhappiness.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No one would have to miss out on the rewards for all 100s. They would just want to wait until later in Dawntrail to get it because the strike is unlikely to last indefinitely. Either SE responds within a couple of months or they don't.

    Otherwise, I mostly agree with you. I still have fun healing so I'll continue to do. Those who don't should stop healing altogether instead of making exceptions. By making exceptions, they're effectively affirming what YoshiP said about playing healer in more difficult content would more satisfying to them and so they're okay with things.
    A good and valid point. They won't have to wait forever. Some really do seem to be planning business as usual and not waiting for SE's response. I noped out of Eureka when it was current at Pagos and avoided it until later so I didn't contribute to their engagement numbers. Same with Bozja. I'll do the same with the Bermuda Triangle if it's just more fate farming. SE pays a lot of attention to engagement and participation numbers. One only has to look at their comments about how there were a lot more people who did the Manderville relics this time.

    Also, you can't remotely say that you're still going to heal because you don't have the same viewpoint even if you have things you'd like to change about the current role to a lot of people participating in this because they will go off the deep end at you. But that tends to happen a lot when someone is unhappy and others simply say they feel differently.
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 06-23-2024 at 01:28 PM.

  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    Can't use trusts in roulettes, alliance raids, normal raids, and savage/ultimate.

    You should know this if you play the game beyond msq.
    And if you take into account the many who don't know about this stunt, and those who know but won't follow it, and those that are in either camp and willing to start giving healing a try, that still renders it mute.

    I second main healers myself, I'll be healing normally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    And if you take into account the many who don't know about this stunt, and those who know but won't follow it, and those that are in either camp and willing to start giving healing a try, that still renders it mute.

    I second main healers myself, I'll be healing normally.
    Please literally go right ahead that’s one of the core tenants of this

    We have already got as many people talking as we can, there is little else we can do, so we are going to enjoy the fun roles and play the good classes (I’ll be on PCT) come DT because we don’t want to heal anymore

    If we are infinitesimally small then we are happy in the knowledge we tired something that got people talking and we get to play classes we find fun, if we are bigger than people expect it may disrupt the queues, it people fill those spaces we leave behind they either be up liking healers which benefits our queues as new DPS or they realise we have a point that healers are garbage

    That’s the point, we are already done, you filling our spots literally only benefits us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies01 View Post
    seethe harder
    This is real funny coming from a raging transphobe who keeps crying about PC players being able to use plugins, lol.
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    just stop playing healer

    they really need to stop necrobumping these dead topics.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by george357 View Post
    they really need to stop necrobumping these dead topics.
    Isn't that what you just did?
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    I will play what I want to play tyvm ydpms♥
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 06-23-2024 at 06:26 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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