Remove AoE healing from non healer jobs

[Rongway]

RDM's vercure is 350 potency, but can be used twice, which actually makes it better than "Cure 1" when applied to the same target. That makes it almost as good as Cure 2.

No, that's not how Dualcast works. Each spell in the Dualcast still costs one GCD. Dualcasting Vercure+Vercure is not better than Cure, let alone "almost as good as Cure 2". In the time a Red Mage can cast Vercure+Vercure a WHM could cast Cure2+Cure2 or Solace+Solace.

[CerusSerenade]

Remove any and all damage from tanks and healers.

Remove any sort of mitigation from DPS and Healers.

Etcetera Etcetera.

[TaleraRistain]

You can't take away any of Warrior's healing or else they will start to lose their meme status.

Xeno will throw a tantrum and SE caters to that man baby.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Xeno will throw a tantrum and SE caters to that man baby.

Some of you seem to need to learn what "playing it up for the camera" means, you do realize most of that is a bit right?

[Bright-Flower]

I'm fine with limited AOE heals on non healer roles.

If content replace healers by like 2-3 jobs having a extra Mit or a heal, I think it's a issue with that said content design.

My thoughts exactly. Maybe now and then an outlier may need to be toned down. But no reason to remove non damage utility from all non healers.

[Mistress_Irika]

As title says that is what should be a step(not the only one) the game should take if it wants to maintain the holy trinity of tank/healer/dps.

PCT does not need an AoE heal, that should be for PCT only same for their shield, it should be for themselves only.

Mnk does not need an AoE heal, self heals fine, not party wide

Smn does not need AoE regen it should be for Smn only

DNC does not need AoE heal, should be for themselves and Dance partner only.

War should not have an AoE shield+Regen, make it a AoE shield at least or AoE shield with self regen at most.


These changes would keep each job’s self sustain intact for themselves, but take away their ability to be able to keep a party alive longer, it’s not their job to maintain and manage the party’s hp it’s the healer role that should do, they should only have to manage their own hp at most for dps, using mitigation on top for tanks.

Healer role should be the only role to have AoE healing in it, should not have any AoE healing within the tank or dps roles.

I'm not exactly sure what this accomplishes. Most people don't manage their own heals to begin with. They leave it strictly for the healer. If the healer dies early it's not like folks are going to all of a sudden use their self heals to keep themselves alive. They're going to wipe right along to give the healers another chance.

[Kathryn]

How about nah, I think I'd like to keep my AoE heal to help my party out, you healer guys are on strike anyway arnt you?

[Connor]

I mean, I’d love to live in a world where all the healing/mitigation type abilities on dps were actually useful and didn’t encroach on healers role responsibilities. But unfortunately the only way that could ever happen is making encounter damage so high nobody could ever hope to complete it (allegedly), so maybe just removing them is the best option

[dtv20]

Bard and Dancer are support jobs. A small aoe heal is fine from the as that is their entire concept. Small shield, small mitigation, small dmg boost.

[Connor]

Bard and Dancer are support jobs. A small aoe heal is fine from the as that is their entire concept. Small shield, small mitigation, small dmg boost.

Huh? Bard and Dancer are ranged physical jobs, support jobs don’t exist in this game (sadly). Bards can’t even heal, or shield, and I don’t think anyone has mentioned Dancer’s healing abilities which aren’t really a unique thing for them anymore.
I mean, even when you take out Red Mage there's also going to be Monk/Pictomancer/Reaper and Summoner, who also do have aoe healing and/or party-wide regens, mitigations and shields.

If anything every job is a support job in ffxiv (whilst simultaneously all being dps lol)