New Benchmark Feedback: Midlander Hyur Females

[Luluna]

Going into the benchmark yet again even on my old laptop (I play PS5) I just can not see an improvement. I was fine with the first benchmark apart from her lack of lip gloss. I have already said in this thread but I am hoping other's will post their concerns. I feel a lot has change the mouths look odd and the shadows in certain lights are off. I hope it will look in game but not holding my breath.

[Araxes]

My Wife was a female Hyur with Face one. When se saw the first Benchmark she cried. Second one she went into it expecting no changes which was for the better. She is a Bunny now.

[LlymlaenGreene]

Hi, I'm messing around with the graphics editor a bit and I got my character back, hehe. I just put in my old eyes, mouth and lips. And she didn't change anything else. However, the nose has not been able to make the colors of the new skin, brightness, contrast and saturation have changed many times and this is the best option. * it seems that the new character has yellowish skin, and the old one has pinkish skin. After spending five hours *using the poke method*, that's what I got :3

original vs benchmark

benchmark vs edit version

original vs edit version

what i added

I wish they hadn't redrawn the old details of the face, but simply improved the detail, the number of polygons, reflection, and so on. * looks dreamily at Yoshida*

pictures.
old hyur

benchmark version

edit version

How important it really is to keep the proportions in these three elements, for me this is a clear example that the developers did not have a goal to make as similar as possible what we wanted. I have looked at 25 types of hyur lips and none of the lips now have a smile. There are 25 types because the lips are individual for each of the five faces. I even have 25 gifs of how they brazenly redrawn every kind of lip.
The way the company behaves is without comment at all. I made a conclusion for myself. I will be waiting for the mod creators to work.

[Iscah]

I'm still bogged down in trying to do some more detailed diagrams and things, but I really need to get something posted as time draws short.

The graphics update hasn't captured my Midlander well at all.

Specifically this is face 3, jaw 3, eye shape 4, eyebrows 4, nose 5, mouth 3.

Some improvements were made since the first version of the benchmark - the heavy crease over the eyelid has been erased, and it helps her to look a bit better - but the eyes and the expression are still wrong. It feels like she has lost her confidence.

Comparison of all three including previous benchmark:

Comparison of current appearance and new benchmark only:


And at a wider distance:


You cannot tell me that these are the same person.

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General issues with the face:

• The eyes are vertically lower and horizontally wider, giving them a drooping appearance and making her look sleepy or ill.
• The nose seems to be bigger and dominates the face in a way it didn't previously.
• The underside of the nose is more slanted instead of being fairly flat, so you see more of it from a front angle.
• The lips are larger - it seems like the shadow under the bottom lip has been reinterpreted as part of the lip. (Someone previously pointed out this had happened on one of the Au Ra faces, and I can now see that it has happened here too.)
• There is a weird pucker on the face (see below).
• The neck is narrower where it meets the head.

The eyes are my biggest issue. You can see in this comparison gif that it goes from being a very "upwards" sort of shape with the arc of the eyelashes basically centred over the pupil, to being low over the eye and heavily weighted towards the outside corner, which has been pushed outwards and become more slanted. It drastically changes the feel of the character.





Specifically regarding the pucker on the face, it's difficult to describe but you can see it in this following picture from the benchmark. As soon as I saw the benchmark I immediately felt like she was pulling a weird face, although I couldn't say what gave the impression until I had it at the right angle for these creases to catch the light. From pulling some faces in the mirror, to get diagonal-inward lines like this to appear on my own face I had to make an exaggerated "ooh" sound with my lips sticking out. It's not a straight resting face at all.




Additionally there are some strange shadows being cast by the hair onto the face:



And some particular weird lighting on the eyelid rims of the benchmark model, so they're brightly lit high up and then have shadows lower down, where the original version has a more controlled, permanently dark outer rim that better frames the eyes.



I wrote it on the image but I'll say it again - my current character is beautiful and I don't want to lose her. She has a perfect balance of looking friendly and confident and sweet-natured, and the benchmark doesn't capture any of it. The soul isn't right.

[Iscah]

Also, separate from the face itself, but the silver buckles on the blouse look horrible and tarnished now. Are we not allowed to keep our gear looking nice any more?

[Boblawblah]

I wrote it on the image but I'll say it again - my current character is beautiful and I don't want to lose her. She has a perfect balance of looking friendly and confident and sweet-natured, and the benchmark doesn't capture any of it. The soul isn't right.

Yep, I can definitely say that while there are surface similarities between the two, they are very different characters and I hope you get to keep her as she is As she is now, she has a very alert/confident expression where the new one looks more demure/almost bored/annoyed look. Not a fan at all.