During the media tour for Dawntrail Yoshida mentioned these lore bits

[diamondedge83]

I didn't play much of FFIX or anything of After Years.

FFIX isn't my favorite, but if someone said they could only play one FF game I would tell them to play FFIX because to me it is the epitome of Final Fantasy. The Mysterious Girl in FFIX is named Mikoto and as mentioned was the only Genome with a soul. She was created to be Zidane's replacement as Zidane was made to be Kuja's replacement. As Dawntrail is going with many FFIX references and Solution 9 seems to be dealing in souls, we could be getting something similar to Mikoto.

As for FFIV:TAY, it's okay in terms of gameplay, and I do love the story. The Maenads are in many ways very similar to the Meteia in Endwalker, so I doubt they'll go down that road again. (FFIV:TAY did it better IMO, though Meteion can be just as creepy).

[Lyth]

Another angle to having the Ascians involved in the plot that is almost too obvious is Galuf's adventure.

This is probably the correct answer, especially given the Echo flashback in the Launch Trailer. I'm sure that at least a recap about Emmerololth is bound to happen at minimum.

No idea what the connection is to Myths, though. Perhaps something to do with the lifestream?

[MikkoAkure]

This is probably the correct answer, especially given the Echo flashback in the Launch Trailer. I'm sure that at least a recap about Emmerololth is bound to happen at minimum.

No idea what the connection is to Myths, though. Perhaps something to do with the lifestream?

I hadn't finished Eureka since I was taking a break from the game at the end of SB, but is there any involvement between Galuf and Emmerololth before the Isle of Val? I was under the impression that Emmerololth just showed up at Val to mess up some sort of thing there and got caught up in whatever exploded and transported the island, killing them in the process. I don't know if Galuf had any involvement with them previous to that, let alone in the New World, but since they're both named characters, we're told to remember the Convocation seats, and they got involved at the end of each of their lives, I wouldn't put it past the writers to have them involved much earlier as well.

I'm still a little stumped on the Myths connection. I reread what happened to refresh my memory but the best guess I can make right now is that maybe Solution Nine is comparable to Omphalos in that it's initially a realm separated.

[SannaR]

I hadn't finished Eureka since I was taking a break from the game at the end of SB, but is there any involvement between Galuf and Emmerololth before the Isle of Val? I was under the impression that Emmerololth just showed up at Val to mess up some sort of thing there and got caught up in whatever exploded and transported the island, killing them in the process. I don't know if Galuf had any involvement with them previous to that, let alone in the New World, but since they're both named characters, we're told to remember the Convocation seats, and they got involved at the end of each of their lives, I wouldn't put it past the writers to have them involved much earlier as well.

I'm still a little stumped on the Myths connection. I reread what happened to refresh my memory but the best guess I can make right now is that maybe Solution Nine is comparable to Omphalos in that it's initially a realm separated.

Emmeroloth was said to have been looking for the primal making primal Eureka and that was why Gaulf and Co flung the Isle into the Aetherial Sea. To not only try and stop primal but also said Ascian. Only for said Ascian to have lines in the infamous 2.3 scene as they're one of the ones who wonder if they should start worrying more about the WoL now that they've killed off ramuh.

[WhiteArchmage]

The funniest thing is that they could have given almost anyone else that line. They could have given it to Deudalaphon who was entirely unnamed inside the game until EE3 confirmed his existence (since before that we only knew of him because the Convocation members shared their names with the Scions of Light in FF12), and yet the person who wrote Eureka just... accidentally grabbed one of the few Ascians who was confirmed alive after the scene was set. The only thing worse would've been if they'd chosen Nabriales.

[SannaR]

The funniest thing is that they could have given almost anyone else that line. They could have given it to Deudalaphon who was entirely unnamed inside the game until EE3 confirmed his existence (since before that we only knew of him because the Convocation members shared their names with the Scions of Light in FF12), and yet the person who wrote Eureka just... accidentally grabbed one of the few Ascians who was confirmed alive after the scene was set. The only thing worse would've been if they'd chosen Nabriales.

That's part of why I hope that meeting gets looked at and cleaned up. As thankfully it's not voice lined and we don't see anyone's masks except for Elidibus and Lahabrea. There's another thing that's wrong with that scene but they could just switch out the names. I totally forgot that Altima talks during that scene until I went to check to see if we saw anyone's masks.

[Mansion]

My personal theory is that as said previously, some Ascians like Loghrif can have a different role than the Zodiark mega-plan, so I wouldn't be surprised if one of the contenders to the throne of Tuliyolal was either an Ascian or Ascian-supported for whatever scheme they can find.

[Kesey]

Honestly, I'm hoping his reference to the 14 specifically is the narrative is going to discuss the more detailed origin of Azem and what Azem was doing during Hydaelyn and Zodiark. Maybe Solution 9 is the "sister city" of Amaurot mentioned in Shadowbringers.

And it's not Ascian anything at all. But I'm probably wrong.

[kaynide]

Well, considering that we know the Ascians were NOT tempered by Zodiark and able to act on their own free will, it is entirely possible that certain Ascians decided to just do whatever they wanted to do independent of the “bring back Zodiark” campaign.

For example, with some Assumptions:

1) It’s possible to awaken a sundered soul to create a “risen Ascian” (a la Loghrif)
2) The Ascian goal is to “bring people back” and have something like how it used to be, with Zodiark being a means to that end via rejoining.
3) there isn’t really anything inherently different between the convocation and your everyday ancient, aside from the 14 being (presumably) the most powerful of them.

If that’s true, what’s stopping a random Ascian from deciding “hey maybe if I get the right souls I can just awaken everyone and restore their memories, Ascian or not”
Then just have these awakened souls body swap as needed, disposing of bodies as needed.
Unless only the 14 could be awakened, for some reason?

[Iscah]

Well, considering that we know the Ascians were NOT tempered by Zodiark

Except we don't know that. We only heard it from Livingway in a phrasing that leans too much into her tendency to underplay things, while (IIRC) other languages state that something as large as Zodiark would still cast an influence when summoned "properly".