#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Katish]

The arrogance of healers. To state with one breath that dps and tanks shouldn't get the occasional support or self healing so that soloing or a healer dying in a dungeon isn't an instant wipe. Yet on the other hand, you demand more active dps, demanding to dip into our role. Your 'strike' will go nowhere. It won't even be a blip on the duty finder radar. The average player will not notice your efforts. And it will all be forgotten as one by one, you all realize how silly you're being. Either going back to your healing or realizing just how few of you there are outside of the forum echo chambers.

You are not the tsunami. You are a drop in the ocean.

So using your logic against you of, "It's fine for tanks to gain party healing and self healing to the point of replacing healers"...okay, so it should also be fine that healers get the tank treatment and be able to fill in the tank role while also having a similar dps kit to the tanks. Again, your words not mine. I don't want that, but if you can't see the hypocrisy, I am not sure what to tell you...

[PeppermintBrown]

So using your logic against you, it's fine for tanks to gain party healing and self healing to the point of replacing healers...okay, so it should also be fine that healers get the tank treatment and be able to fill in the tank role while also having a similar dps kit to the tanks. Again, your words not mine.

Tanks are not replacing healers lmao you are delusional. Leave the conspiracy nonsense behind and come back when you're ready to be serious.

[Katish]

Tanks are not replacing healers lmao you are delusional. Leave the conspiracy nonsense behind and come back when you're ready to be serious.

You don't dungeon enough or do healerless extremes like I do, troll better. In fact, I can run one with you right now if you need irrefutable evidence LEL.

[Sesera]

So using your logic against you, it's fine for tanks to gain party healing and self healing to the point of replacing healers...okay, so it should also be fine healers get the tank treatment and be able to fill in the tank role while also having the tank dps kit. Again, your words not mine.

The problem is that you either have it your way and any time a healer F'd up and die its a wipe unless the boss is almost dead and you punish the all party for the healer mistake or you gives the party a chance to succeed.

A few month ago i had a Ghimlyt Dark run where the healer dc'd mid fight on last boss nobody got mad when the paladin started to keep us alive with clemency quite the opposite actually.

[Katish]

The problem is that you either have it your way and any time a healer F'd up and die its a wipe unless the boss is almost dead and you punish the all party for the healer mistake or you gives the party a chance to succeed.

A few month ago i had a Ghimlyt Dark run where the healer dc'd mid fight on last boss nobody got mad when the paladin started to keep us alive with clemency quite the opposite actually.

100% I am okay with clemency, it has a cost toward the Paladin and doesn't always guarantee a save. But did they really need all the regens and stuff for free 82+, those I have an issue with. Note: I also play all the tanks and see the bigger picture for what it is. Ghimlyt Dark does not see those given it's a 70 dungeon, so the Paladin might struggle to continue the fight...but on dungeons 82+ I can guarantee you that it becomes very very easy to do.

[aiqa]

The problem is that you either have it your way and any time a healer F'd up and die its a wipe unless the boss is almost dead and you punish the all party for the healer mistake or you gives the party a chance to succeed.

A few month ago i had a Ghimlyt Dark run where the healer dc'd mid fight on last boss nobody got mad when the paladin started to keep us alive with clemency quite the opposite actually.

If a tank DC's the team struggles just as much, if not more. Singling out healers for a "but what if they DC" is not fair. And Clemency isn't the main problem, a PLD spamming Clemecy to keep a team alive through AoE's is far worse than a healer with strong AoE heals. The main issue is all the ogcd/inherent healing from tanks.

[Saraide]

The problem is that you either have it your way and any time a healer F'd up and die its a wipe unless the boss is almost dead and you punish the all party for the healer mistake or you gives the party a chance to succeed.

A few month ago i had a Ghimlyt Dark run where the healer dc'd mid fight on last boss nobody got mad when the paladin started to keep us alive with clemency quite the opposite actually.

Then what's the point of having the healing role at all if the other jobs can just make up for it just like that. Shouldnt we just go the pvp route of every job being a dps and then having some flavor on top of that? Should we remake the entire game into a warframe like structure where 4 people are independently soloing the mission?

3 people doing a fight that's designed for 4 people should be tough. Having limited combat rezzes for jobs outside of smn and rdm is also something that has been talked about before. I dont think anyone in here is mad at specific players just playing warrior or paladin, I dont know why you would think that.

[Cheapshot]

The problem is that you either have it your way and any time a healer F'd up and die its a wipe unless the boss is almost dead and you punish the all party for the healer mistake or you gives the party a chance to succeed.

A few month ago i had a Ghimlyt Dark run where the healer dc'd mid fight on last boss nobody got mad when the paladin started to keep us alive with clemency quite the opposite actually.

I think the solution to this is classes like summoner and red mage. When the healer eats floor, having non healers with resurrection gives everyone a shot to recover and salvage a run. It always feels very satisfying and rewarding to me when this happens. Not only should they put the idea of removing res from SMN to rest for good, they should give it to a few more classes that it might make sense on. Maybe Paladin for example.

If our choices being presented are
1. “Content hard, so if the healer dies you have to restart”
2. “Content easy, so healers are unnecessary”
3. “Content hard, but someone can res the healer and we can keep on fighting”
I’ll take the third option any day of the week.