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  1. #11
    Player
    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    The 2nd Nier sets differentiate themselves between melee and tank by how rolled up the sleeves are.

    I think the era of job recognition through armor sets has long since ended
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  2. #12
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't even think it's about job identity, I think Yoshi-P just doesn't like Black Mages in plate armor specifically.

    He said the exact same thing in 2016 (near the bottom)

    We've had bikini tanks and caster robes for tanks for as long as we've had glamour. Now we've got job icons you can have display next to people's names to show what job they are. Confusion about what job someone is not a valid reason, so it has to be Yoshi-P's personal distaste for it.
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  3. #13
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    nguyentri11's Avatar
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    Flufferbut Butterbuns
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Meanwhile Golbez and Exdeath...
    Also the mages in the Heaven's Ward. Maybe Yoshi P is armorist and thinks any mage in armor are the bad guys.
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  4. #14
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    It's literally the worst possible excuse ever.

    They're worried about breaking role fantasy in a game that already permits plate armor on casters, and robe-gear on tanks. Equally you already have NPCs running around in fending gear, even though they are a tank. It's not really an excuse at all.

    I seethed so hard.
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  5. #15
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    It would also be weird to see a tank fighting a God in a bikini.

    Meanwhile me as a healer:



    The hardest part is finding some sort of armored pants (never did find any). There is a variant that can do this on BLM as well.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 06-11-2024 at 06:38 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  6. #16
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Just to note that the inverse: A Dark Knight (tank) who looks like a caster is even more possible.

    And ironically, sometimes you don't even need cosmetic items lol. The Asphodelos fending items are literally robes with pretty minimal plating.

    Sometimes I think that YP is ignorant about the glamouring potentials of his own game. Pretty much like once he was about MCH players not being able to double weave at something like 150ms - which was pretty much a basic complaint and really easy to assess.
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  7. #17
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100


    GNB glam, except everything except the weapon is caster gear.
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  8. #18
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Thing is I really would like some fending/maiming gear on my PLD glam in particular, If you were able to equip and dye both channels (which you can do now) of the maiming Top from the aglaia raid, it would actually look nice as some "light weight" armor.

    I don't like Bulky big shoulder pad armor, But I also don't like Casual Glams, But you practically get forced between the two if you want to play a tank, similar in how Healers are forced to wear robes ect.

    Tell me why can people where a fall guys shirt as a tank but not wear some more light weight armor? None of the glam rules make any sense.
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  9. #19
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Thing is I really would like some fending/maiming gear on my PLD glam in particular, If you were able to equip and dye both channels (which you can do now) of the maiming Top from the aglaia raid, it would actually look nice as some "light weight" armor.

    I don't like Bulky big shoulder pad armor, But I also don't like Casual Glams, But you practically get forced between the two if you want to play a tank, similar in how Healers are forced to wear robes ect.

    Tell me why can people where a fall guys shirt as a tank but not wear some more light weight armor? None of the glam rules make any sense.
    Best ya got is ARR DoW gear :x
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    ~sigh~

  10. #20
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    Aniya_Estlihn's Avatar
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    Izayoi Niwa
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    In response to this response— everyone keeps fixating on this part of his answer when he stated just seconds later that the team keeps bringing up when and how to open up more options for players. Which is a major change in their stance and indicates more hope for this happening than we've had ever before. Yes, he repeated the Black Mage in plate armor comment again, but he digressed after and said that the team wants to lift restrictions eventually. Indicating that its no longer a hard no. Focus on that and push for it to come sooner, rather than later. Being petty about the Black Mages in plate armor excuse isn't productive, focus on the positive in that it will happen eventually, rather than never like once previously believed and put pressure on them to pursue it ASAP.
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