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  1. #21
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Ah yes, Yoshi's 3rd or so denial of expanding our glamour options beyond contrived role restrictions. First it was not wanting to confuse players with casters in armor and tanks in robes (lol, we were beyond that, even when the comment was made). Then it was that he didn't want BLMs running around with great axes (as if any reasonable soul asks for this). And now it's "awkward" for him to see a BLM in plate armor. I'm sorry, what? By that logic, what's a lalafell doing in the iconic Pray-return-to-the-Waking-Sands Minfilia outfit casting black magic spells instead of having MSQ markers over her head?

    It'd be less cringe if he would just come out and blame the ARR spaghetti code or something for the real reason they don't want to do it. In that 2016 interview he cites bandwidth, but I suspect it also has a lot to do with how glamour items are designed/coded to being "equipped" over other gear and are subjected to the same restrictions. You can't even glamourplate AF gear on a shared armor between two different jobs without the system messing the bed should you switch jobs outside a main-city/sanctuary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    everyone keeps fixating on this part of his answer when he stated just seconds later that the team keeps bringing up when and how to open up more options for players. Which is a major change in their stance and indicates more hope for this happening than we've had ever before. Yes, he repeated the Black Mage in plate armor comment again, but he digressed after and said that the team wants to lift restrictions eventually. Indicating that its no longer a hard no.
    If this is true, then great. Maybe they're saving something like this for a new "feature" for the next expansion, like two dye channels are supposed to be for DT (now that I hope we are done with hamfisting new, limited races).

    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    Being petty about the Black Mages in plate armor excuse isn't productive, focus on the positive in that it will happen eventually, rather than never like once previously believed and put pressure on them to pursue it ASAP.
    I see it as less about being petty and more about people rightfully ridiculing such a blatantly inconsistent statement. Reddit even had a massive thread mocking it. They should feel embarrassed that they thought that excuse could even hold water. Quite honestly, it should happen eventually, and sooner rather than later is preferable, but we have been barking up this tree since HW and Yoshi has sidestepped it with unsatisfying answers of similar absurdity every time interviewers deigned to ask it. We have a giant thread asking about glamour restrictions; I don't know how much more pressure we can realistically put outside of lucky few interviewers keep bringing it up. Just let the people point-out that the Emperor in fact, has no clothes (or is wearing a lace bustier and fishnets while sprinting with a great sword).
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    Last edited by Cidel; 06-11-2024 at 07:44 PM.

  2. #22
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Not a big fan of glamour restrictions outside of the job-specific “poster” armor. Moreover I do t really like the “oh no we can’t make too many things because reasons” when they literally took the sky pirate and whatever mad max looking series and made a bunch of level 1 glamours that are almost all identical.

    How many slots of “limited item space” were used on that? And why those two sets and not something more widely glamoured (like the bikini bits from Stormblood) or raid bits from Crystal tower series?
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  3. #23
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    And while they're at it, unlock race-specific gear too.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

  4. #24
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    Merrigan Gilgard
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    Spriggan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    It's going to be a very unpopular opinion, but I think it's better to keep glams locked to jobs. The game already offers ways of getting around these aspects (as shown by the op); but visual identity is still important, and having a hopefully blougi-goulba of jobs distinguished only by their weapons isn't an idea I'm keen on.

    Especially as - and this is a personal opinion - I don't trust people too much. I'm not saying I want all personal freedom to be erased, but I'm one of those people who don't really like seeing Miqo'te in maid's clothing in dungeons. So I have to admit that I prefer to keep the restrictions in place.
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  5. #25
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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    The latest caster tome gear is partial plate mail so it’s not like they’re completely against it.

    Though I’m not sure we’ll get anything like that in DT considering the aesthetics we’ve seen are precolumbian America, American Wild West, and cyberpunk.
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  6. #26
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    Luluna Eve
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Should be unlocked and not a issue in 2024, they have years to do this. We already can wear outfits to a certain extent so the excuse is quite bad. It is down to them not wanting to waste time on it more than likely. You only have to look at how lazy they have become with hairstyles and how limited they are. Imagine if they would allow us to share hairstyles how we would not all be clones.
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  7. #27
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    It's going to be a very unpopular opinion, but I think it's better to keep glams locked to jobs. The game already offers ways of getting around these aspects (as shown by the op); but visual identity is still important, and having a hopefully blougi-goulba of jobs distinguished only by their weapons isn't an idea I'm keen on.
    Visual identity was lost long ago, if it ever were there, and visually jobs are only distinguished by their weapons. (Possibly with the exception of "artifact armor", but nearly nobody wears that anyway.)

    No, there are no good reasons for restrictions on glamour.
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  8. #28
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    Leon Arcadian
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    having a hopefully blougi-goulba of jobs distinguished only by their weapons isn't an idea I'm keen on.
    Is this not already where we are at? The gearset designs are really formulaic and samey. Casting gear is always pallette swap healing gear, which often is extremely similar to DPS gear but with some kind of long back or suggestion of a cape or robe. The way the different gear is "distinguished" from each other is really arbitrary anyway. Like aiming and scouting pieces being exactly the same except one has silver metal trim and the other has brass, always random depending on the set making it really annoying to try to make glams.
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  9. #29
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I bet he's one of those who think it's acceptable to wear full sets and call it a creative glamour sets... Glam endgame has been a thing ever since glamour system was a thing, just let me use that one striking face chain on every job as character signature piece. If I want a full plate BLM it already exists, but he just doesn't get it
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  10. #30
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Visual identity was lost long ago, if it ever were there, and visually jobs are only distinguished by their weapons. (Possibly with the exception of "artifact armor", but nearly nobody wears that anyway.)

    No, there are no good reasons for restrictions on glamour.
    Even then

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    ~sigh~

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