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  1. #371
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    Personally, I ignore the Nier crossover because of how bat$#%* crazy it is, and the implications it has on the world.

    That is to say, FF 14 exists in a realm where androids from an post-apocalyptic far far future Earth, somehow crashed/phased/something’d to a sub- “plane” of our world. And btw that apocalypse was caused by a time traveling dragon from an entirely different game which had a disease wiping out humans in yet another entirely different game.

    Anyway, so somehow this time they brought chunks of a broken space station, a factory and uh…that tower… complete with problems/conflicts/enemies that were largely resolved previously.

    And the Nier director says this is canon!?



    In my brain, the WoL was partying with the dwarves and got a bad batch of hooch. Fever dreams. All fever dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Personally, I ignore the Nier crossover because of how bat$#%* crazy it is, and the implications it has on the world.

    That is to say, FF 14 exists in a realm where androids from an post-apocalyptic far far future Earth, somehow crashed/phased/something’d to a sub- “plane” of our world. And btw that apocalypse was caused by a time traveling dragon from an entirely different game which had a disease wiping out humans in yet another entirely different game.

    Anyway, so somehow this time they brought chunks of a broken space station, a factory and uh…that tower… complete with problems/conflicts/enemies that were largely resolved previously.

    And the Nier director says this is canon!?



    In my brain, the WoL was partying with the dwarves and got a bad batch of hooch. Fever dreams. All fever dreams.
    Maybe not a bad batch of hooch, but more so in trying to keep up with the dwarves in consumption.
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Maybe not a bad batch of hooch, but more so in trying to keep up with the dwarves in consumption.
    Could be! Wild stuff happens when you guzzle tank gasoline!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    And the Nier director says this is canon!?
    If he wants to make it canon to his half of the crossover then good luck to him, but I refuse to acknowledge it as part of FFXIV's half.
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  5. #375
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    I ignore the fact that self-respecting aether using gunbreakers would have to reload. I think it's a pasted in mechanic lorewise that has to be there because of Thancred. It's extremely clunky, unreliable. And I refuse to believe that an ancient job from a civilization that tanked the gunbatteries of the Allagans would stop for a reload break midbattle. Even the class mechanics DRAW aether to fill the cartridges up and you gain it midbattle. Even the lorebook has the gunbreakers use their own aether.

    So I refuse to believe and vehemently ignore that ALL gunbreakers reload. I think it's for beginners and for people who can't use aether like Thancred.
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  6. #376
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    None of it; I prefer to build an OC around the existing lore whether it works for a previous version of the OC or not (or what I already had in mind, anyway). If new lore negates or disproves my WOL's past or some other trait, I find a way to work it in, because external circumstances change people and my WOL isn't static. It's more immersive to me this way
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    I am incredibly late to this, but it's not so much choosing to ignore a tidbit of lore so much as it is a head cannoned explanation for the use of offensive light magicks (ie; Glare and Dia) by the White Mage and a return to elemental conjurey for my character after the events of Shadowbringers come to a close.

    To me, I've always loved the Conjurer aspects of White Mage, the art of conjurey is core to my OC's lore and "cannon". He draws his strength from nature and borrows from the Elementals, and in turn gives back to the lands from which he's borrowed aether through meditation.

    So, I was a little disappointed when come Shadowbringers, I'd lost access to Stone and Aero... but it did make sense, lore-wise, for my Conjurer / White Mage to draw from the most potent of elements present in The First rather than relying on the strength of nature alone to overcome such powerful foes. So the use of Light Magic during the events of Shadowbringers made a lot of sense to me, and for the time being, felt "correct", especially with the gradual defeat of the Sin Eaters / Lightwardens and the light absorbed.

    That being said, I feel like it makes sense for my character to have expunged this light during his final encounter with Emet-Selch. Having dealt the final blow to Emet with the Axe of Light, it makes sense to me that without the light of the wardens or the eternal Flood of Light looming over Norvrandt, that he would have lost the ability to or at the very least would not have a source powerful enough to draw from in order to cast light magic such as Dia or Glare with much effectiveness, and as such, would return to the nature of conjurey and drawing power from the elements upon returning to The Source.

    The continued use of Glare / Dia don't make sense for me or my character thematically, so I just kind of pretend he is casting highly potent stone and aero spells in place of the upgraded versions of Glare/Dia/Holy that've come with Endwalker and onward.
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  8. #378
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    I ignore dynamis. The story had been heavily monistic (everything is aether) for too long, and retconning dynamis into it really just kind of shat on what came before.
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    Personally, i sorta ignore the "ARR-EW happened in 1 year" debacle. There's no way in my mind that the WoL went through all of that in...a year??? My personal thoughts are like, 2-ish years at minimum honestly.
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  10. #380
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornyCryolo View Post
    Personally, i sorta ignore the "ARR-EW happened in 1 year" debacle. There's no way in my mind that the WoL went through all of that in...a year??? My personal thoughts are like, 2-ish years at minimum honestly.
    This…is a thing. Time is really done weird here. Like, just the boat trip from Limsa to Kugane was…2-3 months according to lore stuff?? So a quarter of our ARR-EW experience was on a boat.

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    Last edited by kaynide; 06-11-2024 at 01:00 PM.

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