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  1. #71
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I personally think that dps-ing as a heal in dungeons is a very satisfying thing to do. Just spam aoes and out-dps some of your actual damage dealers
    Also, the worse a group is, the more a heal is needed. If you take a tank and 2 dps, that only use half of their tool kits (which way too many people do), they will still need a heal :shrug:
    I wish DPSing in dungeons as a healer was more interesting that slapping the floor twelve times. Now we get to use an AoE once on the odd pulls, WAO Amazing

    Also, the old "Healers are engaging when you play with bad player" that lasts for like 1 week at best after everybody has caught up to mechanic.
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  2. #72
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    Mecia's Avatar
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    O'ssu Mecia
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    Twintania
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Youd think managing survival was the point of tanks and healers but apparently CBU3 not wanting these roles to be stressful means breaking that fundamental part of the trinity.
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  3. #73
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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    lol surprised pikachu face
    they basically know either no-ko perfect play or baby mode in this game for years now why are people so surprised?

    I still remember them boasting how Thaleia is the same difficulty as Orbonne on release - yeah if the boss pulls of 2 attacks by the time he hits 60% HP with day one runs already skipping mechs...
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  4. #74
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Unsurprisingly, the new encounters are apparently solo-able on WAR as well. Here's something aimed a bit closer to the standard DF experience. Expect 20 minute long 'clutch saves' as the norm on fights without enrages.

    The problem isn't so much being able to solo an encounter, it's just that WAR's self-healing in general is overly forgiving and facilitates sloppy gameplay.
    I honestly don't understand how anyone can even rationalise the lobotomisation of the support role.
    ''No don't nerf Warrior just buff and make Dark knight for apes too''
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  5. #75
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Watched the video you could say he had a healer in the party with a RDM in the party that can raise and heal. I hope that's not the first dungeon because I sure don't like it just taking place on a boat.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 06-08-2024 at 09:17 PM.

  6. #76
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Watched the video you could say he had a healer in the party with a RDM in the party that can raise and heal. I hope that's not the first dungeon because I sure don't like it just taking place on a boat.
    It's another "auto-scroller" dungeon opening akin to Anamnesis Aynder or Lapis Manalis.

    And yeah, those bits are okay on a first play but being forced to wait for enemies to spawn one pack at a time isn't particularly thrilling on repeat runs, especially with trash mobs being as simplistic and undertuned as they are.
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  7. #77
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by a war doing this. When almost every video going over war basically boiled down to what Woops's editor said. "Congratulations on still being the most unkillable job in the game." That and they're in gear that is above the dungeon's ilv. This would be more impressive if a person who doesn't know the job as well did it or as a job that has little to no self sustain.
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  8. #78
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    Una Lesrekta
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    Sophia
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I mean, in general dungeons can also cleared with no tank or no dps, so I don’t think this is specific to healers.
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  9. #79
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by a war doing this.
    People are not surprised, they are simply disappointed. Not that anyone really thought things would improve for the healer role.

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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

  10. #80
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Malboro
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Would be funny if people stopped playing healers altogether just so people could cry about lack of healers in DT until SE adressed the elephant in the room.
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