SE please stop the buying housing with alts on the new DC's

[Gokki]

Houses should be restricted to one house per region per service account without grandfathering. This includes FC houses so if you have an FC house you can't have a regular one.
This is the last restriction that is needed, and make sure to demolish all extra houses except the last one visited. If you have an FC house the FC house gets priority, if one has several FCs then the latest visited one counts.
This should free up a lot of houses for regular folks to bid on.

[justausername]

Houses should be restricted to one house per region per service account without grandfathering. This includes FC houses so if you have an FC house you can't have a regular one.
This is the last restriction that is needed, and make sure to demolish all extra houses except the last one visited. If you have an FC house the FC house gets priority, if one has several FCs then the latest visited one counts.
This should free up a lot of houses for regular folks to bid on.

Okay cool. can't have houses on multiple servers. but why shouldn't you be able to have a personal if you have an FC house? Who owns the FC house? The FC does, yes? So does that then mean every person in an FC cannot have a house? That's ridiculous. The leader of the FC does not own the house. If you said they did, and then they didn't log in for 30 days, and leadership auto transferred to someone who DOES have a personal house, suddenly their house or the FC house gets deleted, no warning, depending on which was last visited? That would cause riots. You have no control over when other people log in, or who gets control of the FC if leadership is passed from someone not logging in for a long time.

[BristolRuss]

Houses should be restricted to one house per region per service account without grandfathering. This includes FC houses so if you have an FC house you can't have a regular one.
This is the last restriction that is needed, and make sure to demolish all extra houses except the last one visited. If you have an FC house the FC house gets priority, if one has several FCs then the latest visited one counts.
This should free up a lot of houses for regular folks to bid on.

The problem with that is that FC's can change leadership. What happens if the leadership changes to someone who already has a house? Does it get deleted? Seems unfair when FC leadership can change automatically if the leader doesn't log in for a while.

[Mistress_Irika]

Houses should be restricted to one house per region per service account without grandfathering. This includes FC houses so if you have an FC house you can't have a regular one.
This is the last restriction that is needed, and make sure to demolish all extra houses except the last one visited. If you have an FC house the FC house gets priority, if one has several FCs then the latest visited one counts.
This should free up a lot of houses for regular folks to bid on.

I can understand getting rid of those that owns an entire ward to themselves, but I feel as though you're hard punishing those that regularly uses an alt.

On second thought, I think you're trying to punish those that are up in a free company. I shouldn't have to choose between being in a group and playing solo just for housing reasons. I already have to deal with this in pvp. Can we please not bring this to a non-combat activity?

[MistakeNot]

Houses should be restricted to one house per region per service account without grandfathering. This includes FC houses so if you have an FC house you can't have a regular one.
This is the last restriction that is needed, and make sure to demolish all extra houses except the last one visited. If you have an FC house the FC house gets priority, if one has several FCs then the latest visited one counts.
This should free up a lot of houses for regular folks to bid on.

That's a stupid idea if I ever heard one.
It would essentially mean that you can either have a private house, OR be in an FC. But not both.
No, thanks. Even if the current situation is bad, it is way, way better than what you propose.

[Gokki]

Taking things away doesn't fix anything. It creates new problems.

Detach workshops from housing and attach them to the Grand Company HQs. Detach gardening from housing and add it to Island Sanctuary. You've now removed most of what incentivizes multiple FC house ownership by a single player - the profit potential - while leaving the profit potential in place and reducing demand on the housing system.

Improve instanced housing to include multiple sizes and be interior/exterior neutral. You now have a system where players can get what they want without having to compete against other players for a small chance to get it. Wards can stay in place for those who like the competitive aspect of obtaining the prime plots.

Fix the stupid furnishing placement restrictions. Players shouldn't have to resort to third party mods to easily and precisely place furnishings where they want them to be.

That i agree, some of the systems tied to an FC should go for GC, so players who don't/can't engage in an FC can do those by themselves. That said - if a player's sole reason to engage with an empty FC is to do the workshop stuff on their own then maybe they should want to join an existing FC, the way it was designed in the first place.

I stand by my reasoning, the inconvenience of some people is easily worth sacrificing so other players can have their own house.

That's a stupid idea if I ever heard one.
It would essentially mean that you can either have a private house, OR be in an FC. But not both.
No, thanks. Even if the current situation is bad, it is way, way better than what you propose.

Please think carefully. Only FC leaders can't have both personal and FC house: either transfer FC ownership to someone who doesn't or demolish your personal house. Anyone else in the FC doesn't have this problem, it's really only FC leaders who bear this burden. I'm OK with it. If you want you own house AND have a mansion for the FC don't be an FC lead.

If you currently own a house AND an empty FC for your personal use that's PRECISELY what i'm advocating for breaking.

[Brynne]

This includes FC houses so if you have an FC house you can't have a regular one.

I dislike this take immensely. Just because you're a leader of an FC with a house, you shouldn't be allowed a personal house? The impact would be almost nothing on people who are monopolizing FC housing (multiple accounts and those who don't much care about personal housing) and would be brutal to regular players just doing their thing. The FC house belongs to the FC, not the individual.

I disagree with the OP too. One thing SE could do to free up a bit of housing is decouple airship/submarine production from housing. Make it so FCs can purchase an entrance to the workshop elsewhere, and it'll likely help a bit. They could also make apartments upgradable and provide a little outdoor garden area, and this would make them more attractive as an alternative.

The real issue with housing, however, is that there is not enough supply to meet the demand. No amount of draconian rules are going to fix that issue. We need a supply that can meet player demand (instanced housing, most likely) to really fix it.

[LianaThorne]

I dislike this take immensely. Just because you're a leader of an FC with a house, you shouldn't be allowed a personal house? The impact would be almost nothing on people who are monopolizing FC housing (multiple accounts and those who don't much care about personal housing) and would be brutal to regular players just doing their thing. The FC house belongs to the FC, not the individual.

I disagree with the OP too. One thing SE could do to free up a bit of housing is decouple airship/submarine production from housing. Make it so FCs can purchase an entrance to the workshop elsewhere, and it'll likely help a bit. They could also make apartments upgradable and provide a little outdoor garden area, and this would make them more attractive as an alternative.

The real issue with housing, however, is that there is not enough supply to meet the demand. No amount of draconian rules are going to fix that issue. We need a supply that can meet player demand (instanced housing, most likely) to really fix it.

Let's just be specific here:
The demand is for larges/mediums, there are still thousands of small houses available. It kinda grinds my gears when people say there isn't supply when there are houses that have been sitting abandoned for months on multiple data centers just because they're smalls or in the Goblet. I was able to get a house within my first week on Diabolos just because it was a small that no one else bid on in a decent location in Goblet.

It's correct to say that there aren't enough "ideal houses" to meet the demand of the community but literally I feel like a broken record repeating myself about the state of Dynamis and the thousands of personals just chilling there (not including unopened wards).

[Gokki]

Let's just be specific here:
The demand is for larges/mediums, there are still thousands of small houses available. It kinda grinds my gears when people say there isn't supply when there are houses that have been sitting abandoned for months on multiple data centers just because they're smalls or in the Goblet. I was able to get a house within my first week on Diabolos just because it was a small that no one else bid on in a decent location in Goblet.

It's correct to say that there aren't enough "ideal houses" to meet the demand of the community but literally I feel like a broken record repeating myself about the state of Dynamis and the thousands of personals just chilling there (not including unopened wards).

A big problem i feel with small houses is their stringent limits of items. If the item limit is raised, both inside and outside, then it'll aleviate the problem i feel.

[Yodada]

The stupidity when it comes to Housing suggestions on the OF never ceases to amaze me.