The new MCH is still a total joke

[Kazamaiya]

There's a lot that could have been done with Excavator. It looks cool and does damage, but it just doesn't really add much or fix/address feedback.
It's another way to generate Battery in AoE, while it just as easily could have been a cool way for us to expend Battery in AoE and give it a unique way of working with rotations and whatnot.
Have it spend 20 battery or smth so your burst phase could be *Gain max Battery, Activate Queen, use Chainsaw to get 20 Battery which is then spent on Excavator* or smth. Idrk i'm just spitballing ideas here

Point being that Excavator could have been a way to spend Battery or do something else to better address feedback, Instead it just appears as 'AoE Air anchor 2' or 'Chain Saw 2' without really adding much beyond that.

Expansions should address feedback and try to make the players excited or happy by doing the bigger job changes.

[CKNovel]

You're telling me you don't care because it doesn't affect the job, which is fair enough. I'm telling you I care because it feels sloppy on the design side. It could have been so much more.

It's up to you to define "more".

Point being that Excavator could have been a way to spend Battery or do something else to better address feedback, Instead it just appears as 'AoE Air anchor 2' or 'Chain Saw 2' without really adding much beyond that.

I don't disagree, the battery gauge could disappear and the AQ would work on a 60s cooldown, it would work better while remaining similar.
The way you propose works but in practice you'd just use Excavator right after Chain saw, exactly like in DT. With this version of Excavator, I feel that its main purpose is to help MCH getting more Battery and not getting screwed because of downtime. A lot of the changes seems to be aiming for this, GNB is another example of a job heavy on resources punished by downtime.

But I perfectly agree with the sentiment, Battery gauge is too shallow at the moment.

[Ramiee]

For AOE battery I think they should just readd bishop autoturret and make it cost 50 maybe make it look like a fancy new robot too but id prefer the turret put it on the same CD as Queen and its done, in a more beautiful world you'd be able to put both up at the same time but that wouldn't happen in the modern game.
For flamethrower i have no idea what they can do to fix it outside of just making it do more damage.

[Valence]

It's up to you to define "more".

I'm not a game designer, unlike the devs I don't have 3 years to work on something nice, and I'm frankly sick to be asked that fallacious question every time.

Perhaps go ask SMN players the same question about Physick instead, because that's exactly what it is about here to my eyes.

I'm sorry if I come across as dry here, but it certainly takes some gal to tell me to "just take" something worthless to the design just because it's "free and doesn't harm the job".

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

Job is fine next thread

[Nekuroi]

The biggest problem, to me, is WildFire.

I wish Full Metal actually counted as two, so people with higher ping could get 6 GCDs inside WF without needing to pay extra ping reductors or something.

While I do agree Excavator could be something more, the job has a way bigger problem.


WF should either:
- Have Full Metal count as two, so high ping can get all hits
or
- Have a 12/14 second duration, but a 6 stack, making you NEED to hypercharge but be a bit lenient on how high ping players could use all GCDs.

That's my only grip, how much of a task you gotta do for a skill that: can't crit/dhit and doesnt seem oomph.

[Darkstride]

Wildfire feels more and more out of place as Machinist gets more tools. This is paired with the fact that it has the worst and least impactful ability animation in the game. I was really hoping it would evolve into something more interesting, but here we are. Same old Wildfire.

[Valence]

Job is fine next thread

Would you be so kind to elaborate as to why?

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

Would you be so kind to elaborate as to why?

I like the wild west

[SalamanderIX]

Looking at all the media tour job overviews, sorry to say but Machinist got about as good an update as anybody else, maybe one of the better ones.
Really nobody changed much. The biggest thing added was White Mage being able to dash.