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    Kissune's Avatar
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    Leona Lunasch
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Judging by the media tour leaks, it seems like cards will be unbelievably boring. Mit card seems to be a flat shield/flat mit, the heal is a regen/burst heal. Damage remains melee/ranged (or it might be magic/physical? The leaker wasnt clear).

    These are leaks, so take them with a grain of salt, but with the embargo set to end a couple days from now, I don't expect to be proven wrong. I hope to god I am, though...
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    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...

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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    Judging by the media tour leaks, it seems like cards will be unbelievably boring. Mit card seems to be a flat shield/flat mit, the heal is a regen/burst heal. Damage remains melee/ranged (or it might be magic/physical? The leaker wasnt clear).

    These are leaks, so take them with a grain of salt, but with the embargo set to end a couple days from now, I don't expect to be proven wrong. I hope to god I am, though...
    I think I've seen what you're on about, and if they are true, then there's just zero hope for CBU3. What's the lore explanation for Arrow to be THAT effect??? In fact, why is Balance/Spear supposedly the Melee/Ranged cards, instead of, idk, Arrow being the Ranged card???

    Shows how little the devs play AST, if they can't even make the card effects feel like they match the cards
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    Kissune's Avatar
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    Leona Lunasch
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    I think I've seen what you're on about, and if they are true, then there's just zero hope for CBU3. What's the lore explanation for Arrow to be THAT effect??? In fact, why is Balance/Spear supposedly the Melee/Ranged cards, instead of, idk, Arrow being the Ranged card???

    Shows how little the devs play AST, if they can't even make the card effects feel like they match the cards
    It's purely creative bankruptcy. They just have this nebulous definition of a healer they're trying to make all of the classes fit into, without any regards for how the identity of the classes actually function. They just saw people complaining about the RNG of minor arcana and dyne (not the cards, I literally never saw anyone complaining about the cards themselves being RNG), and the lack of unique effects. So they're just making this amalgamation of negative feedback and just spitting it out without realizing hey, at some point this class kinda stopped resembling Astrologian. Like the only real identity it has kept beyond aesthetic at this point is the concept of delayed and chargeable healing. I expect them to keep that, and while I do like it... What's the point of playing a class for its 'healing style' when fights are designed with a one-size-fits all mindset? What's the difference between asylum and opposition when the former is map wide? The heal amp? Lmao. What's the difference between macrocosmos healing to full after a raidwide and zoe pneuma doing the same thing? The fact that you have to press the button beforehand or have to press two buttons instead? Is that seriously what healers are now? Slight variations in the order you press your generic 'heal the raidwide' button? AST having an overload of meaningless single target heals and mits isn't gonna mean anything bc warrior and paladin can full heal a dungeon by themselves, with gunbreaker and dark knight not far behind. They won't mean much when they're taking a tankbuster bc if they cant survive without astro's bloated mit and heals, then they would die with a white mage. And that would cause issues. So at that point, you'd just be throwing meaningless tools onto the stack that do nothing. And that's even ignoring the odds that fights arent going to be designed with all these new healing tools in mind. Why would they be? They weren't in ShB or EW. Is it bc YoshiP said so? He also said Viper is a highly technical job, too, when the rotation is basically an inverse ninja 123.
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    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...

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    Zaytex Zanshin
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    Judging by the media tour leaks, it seems like cards will be unbelievably boring. Mit card seems to be a flat shield/flat mit, the heal is a regen/burst heal. Damage remains melee/ranged (or it might be magic/physical? The leaker wasnt clear).

    These are leaks, so take them with a grain of salt, but with the embargo set to end a couple days from now, I don't expect to be proven wrong. I hope to god I am, though...
    Oh my god I've just read them and it's awful. It's nothing new or interesting, just existing tools that every WHM/AST already have... but repackaged as a ''card''.

    This is really bad. It's literally what we predicted. I can't believe we are losing 4 damage cards every 2 minutes, astrodyne and unfixed melee/ranged type which require actual effort and skill to optimise in favour of more mitigation and healing tools which are just weaker than existing ones on both WHM/AST.

    I'm genuinely speechless.
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