Goodbye, and good luck.

[Deceptus]

Some of you might notice me and some of you might not but I used to frequent these healer forums relatively extensively.

My game time has run out but I might have forum access until the end of the day so I wanted to make this thread to say Goodbye and Good luck to my fellow healers.

I've basically run out of reasons to log in and haven't for almost 2 months now. Multiple housing notifications that I just logged in to open my house door.

But mostly I'm tired of the job design that CBU3 has put on healers. I'm tired of playing a role that CBU3 clearly has no overall vision for and doesn't have the ability to properly balance them, much less make them "fun" or "engaging" during their downtime.

So, if you play into Dawntrail, I hope it's everything you want it to be and may your loot rolls be good. If you stick around, I hope you are having fun.

10 years was a good run but it's over. It's time for this jaded, grizzled veteran to turn around and walk away.

[Supersnow845]

Truly the end of an era

[NobleWinter]

The fact so many great healers are leaving the game says a lot. I really hope they change course soon.

[Aravell]

The fact so many great healers are leaving the game says a lot. I really hope they change course soon.

Well, that's what the dev team wanted, isn't it? They wanted to absolutely gut the healer role down to its basic parts so DPS and tank players can "give healers a try".

Well, let's hope that those players "giving healers a try" can keep up with all the veterans bleeding out of the role, eh?

[VeolE]

Well, that's what the dev team wanted, isn't it? They wanted to absolutely gut the healer role down to its basic parts so DPS and tank players can "give healers a try".

Well, let's hope that those players "giving healers a try" can keep up with all the veterans bleeding out of the role, eh?

The sad part about is that i'm a TANK MAIN, and I despite those healer changes. Ever since they change my favorite healer AST with it's cards going into ShB, and SCH with selene basically getting deleted from exist to a glorified glamour. Along with the dots, and bane. (Ngl, I wished they keep that aetherflow trait. that was 45 secs, and decrease every 5 secs on using certain atherflow abilities was rad and restore energy drain back to it's former glory, but we'll never get THAT back now will we?)

[Gember]

Well, that's what the dev team wanted, isn't it? They wanted to absolutely gut the healer role down to its basic parts so DPS and tank players can "give healers a try".

Well, let's hope that those players "giving healers a try" can keep up with all the veterans bleeding out of the role, eh?

This is exactly what SE wants. New players are important, and filling the roles needed are important for fluid gameplay. They know veterans will stay because they have been here for 6+ years already. They don't need to advertise to the old players; they already sold the game to them. First time experiences in FFXIV can be quite amazing, and I think that is the priority to the company's eyes. Not some old jaded healers complaining on the forums because they got too good at the game. <- I jest as I say this, but it makes perfect sense as to how they see things. They are not worried about us, because baby healers and good healers are two different worlds, and SE just does not know how to balance that without toxic behavior brewing from it. -shrugs-

[Supersnow845]

This is exactly what SE wants. New players are important, and filling the roles needed are important for fluid gameplay. They know veterans will stay because they have been here for 6+ years already. They don't need to advertise to the old players; they already sold the game to them. First time experiences in FFXIV can be quite amazing, and I think that is the priority to the company's eyes. Not some old jaded healers complaining on the forums because they got too good at the game. <- I jest as I say this, but it makes perfect sense as to how they see things. They are not worried about us, because baby healers and good healers are two different worlds, and SE just does not know how to balance that without toxic behavior brewing from it. -shrugs-

The real question to be asked though is do baby healers actually enjoy the healers either

I get it; the support roles have a “scary stigma” attached to them because you are a fail point in your party and overcoming this fear and doing a dungeon right is a good feeling the first few times you do it

But is that enough to hold any of these people to the role for it to be sustainable. I’m sure a not insignificant amount of new players that feel that way go “well I’m happy I got over my fear but I think I’ll stay on DPS and just play healer occasionally”. Sure some would also become healer mains but would they stay for long either

Going into a double DPS expansion with a job that’s generating the most excitement out of any job since SAM (in pictomancer) are these transient “I’ll play healer just to give it a go” people plus the jaded healer mains that refuse to give up the role enough to actually hold the role together.

You all know me, I’m one of the top 5 most jaded healer mains on the forums. Even I am using a friend who is on healer to run the day 1 roulettes on PIC because I genuinely am that over dealing with this trash fire of a role

[Zaytex]

The real question to be asked though is do baby healers actually enjoy the healers either

I get it; the support roles have a “scary stigma” attached to them because you are a fail point in your party and overcoming this fear and doing a dungeon right is a good feeling the first few times you do it

But is that enough to hold any of these people to the role for it to be sustainable. I’m sure a not insignificant amount of new players that feel that way go “well I’m happy I got over my fear but I think I’ll stay on DPS and just play healer occasionally”. Sure some would also become healer mains but would they stay for long either

Going into a double DPS expansion with a job that’s generating the most excitement out of any job since SAM (in pictomancer) are these transient “I’ll play healer just to give it a go” people plus the jaded healer mains that refuse to give up the role enough to actually hold the role together.

You all know me, I’m one of the top 5 most jaded healer mains on the forums. Even I am using a friend who is on healer to run the day 1 roulettes on PIC because I genuinely am that over dealing with this trash fire of a role

It's definitely the worst role for sustainability. I remember my journey from when I first started to right now. Initially, I adored WHM and healing in general and found dungeon runs to be difficult (ShB era). I stayed away from AST because the card mechanic was too difficult for me to comprehend, and I didn't like the gameplay loop of SCH (I still dont).

Then I got better at the game, and (excuse the ego) very good at healing when I began delving into extremes and savage on patch. It got to the point that I got bored quickly and started to dislike healing on WHM. I shifted to AST and began to play it optimally and ever since, even during casual content, I have fun and enjoy healing. I've only stuck to AST when healing and WHM is so painfully boring I can't stand to play it. I ended up going from a hardcore WHM enjoyer to an AST lover, which is an interest retrospective.

I definitely think this contributes to why I see the healer role genuinely only played by newer or bad players, whether in my roulettes or PF's. It's honestly a miserable role if you're good at it, with only AST optimization being an option which isn't for everyones liking.

I wonder how bad the queues in DT will be.. 2 new DPS jobs, healer is still awful but now current AST mains will probably drop the role entirely.

[Deceptus]

I wonder how bad the queues in DT will be.. 2 new DPS jobs, healer is still awful but now current AST mains will probably drop the role entirely.

That's the reason they've been working on trusts so hard. See a 30+ minute queue? Might as well just load up a Trust for your dungeon.

[vetch]

The real question to be asked though is do baby healers actually enjoy the healers either

I started in 5.3 and I genuinely don't know who FF14 healing design is for. Maybe four months after starting I was already searching thru the OF and the subreddit archives for threads to put words to why I was so bored and unhappy with FF14 healing.

It's not for triage healers because there's not enough damage. It's not for buffmonkeys because all the buffs are zero-creativity damage increases. It's not for control freaks because there's no crowd control and barely any resource management. It's not for DPS button-heads because you press 1-1-1-1 90% of the time.

Genuinely, what kind of new player are they trying to keep? IMVU refugees?