Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
Before amends can be made, a truce must exist.
Disagree, amends can be made to show a truce is authetic and not paperweight. Now I'm not saying the amends would disolve the long history of war they had, but the amends need to be displayed from both sides instead of Ishguard saying "gimme gimme gimme" all the time. Now how could Ishguard show they want peace? Simple, the dragons had a Gnath issue. Instead of relying entirely on the warrior of light, they could have send a small battalion to aid in the dragons dealing with the Gnath. It shows the "give" part of a give/take relationship. It shows Ishguard is willing to come to the dragons aid instead of it always being the reverse, and with the warrior of light leading the battilion, it gives an inroad for both sides to help show the dragons that they mean business. But as I said, the storyline was mostly under the lenses of Ishguard and how the dragons had to bend over backwards for there to be peace, which again was offputting.

LOL I think we disagree heavily on a game making me want to quit shows how well written it is. The only reason I'm continuing with the game is that I regularly see folks say Endwalker and Shadowbringer are the top tier of MMORPG content and often I see folks say FF14 has the best story out of any FF, including 7. Seeing as 7 is my favorite, I had to check it out. This isn't publicity where folks say bad publicity=good publicity. If a game makes you want to quit, it's not a good game in that person eyes. Fortunately, I have the ability to skip lol. For any parts I miss, I can always watch on Youtube and then it's someone else's character going through it instead of my own.


Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
I detested the story of heavensward so much it was genuinely a chore to get through (I played on it's release, many many moons ago).
Thank you, I'm not saying everyone needs to agree with me. I just found it shocking that I kept seeing heavensward being the turnaround for FFXIV when for me it felt a step backwards from ARR. I can respect the story's attempt for nuance, but then you get whiplash by the pidgeonholing you get associated with that nuance which = cognitive dissonance. Especially when it's supposed to be "your character" that's in this role. If this was the story of say "kratos", I wouldn't have cared anywhere near as much because it's not supposed to be my character. And when you say the classes were in a much more enjoyable state, were you talking about the change to summoner? Because coming back to that was another shocking change lol.

In any case, thanks again for the info, and it's been a lot less stressful and more enjoyable now I can definitely say that.