Jobs feel pretty much complete with Dawntrail no?

[OgruMogru]

This is the entitlement I am talking about. I've read plenty of constructive posts and I'm not referring to them. Most of the people complaining are either in the wrong restaurant or fully accountable for their bad experience.

To use your restaurant analogy, it's like someone goes into a sushi restaurant, orders a big mac, and just won't leave. Keeps complaining and blaming the chef, but won't go to the mcdonalds next door. "I like the feeling of this restaurant but I want a big mac! I am really attached to the seat I got and I had to wait a month for reservations!"

No it's like we were IN a restaurant with food we enjoyed until management came in, swept all the food off everyone's plates, blended it into a slurry and emptied it all out into a trough on the floor for us to all bump up shoulder to shoulder with our faces in, then being told to be grateful we don't have to chew anymore.

[HikariKurosawa]

No it's like we were IN a restaurant with food we enjoyed until management came in, swept all the food off everyone's plates, blended it into a slurry and emptied it all out into a trough on the floor for us to all bump up shoulder to shoulder with our faces in, then being told to be grateful we don't have to chew anymore.

Nobody said you should be grateful, just move on if you don't like what is being served. Life is too short for your entitlement. Trust me.

[vetch]

[Malthir]

What else can they add aside from polishing up the animations or upgrading existing abilities like fire 3 into fire 4 and adding fire 5 if I use black mage as an example.

Maybe 8.0 will just be potency upgrades and final revisions to what we get in dawntrail, with a major focus on both new/old content and encounter design instead of job advancement? They could rework the entire low level experience to make the game much more fun at all levels.

It feels to me like if they just keep piling on new actions and every expansion after dawntrail that things are going to be too busy and it's just like, a waste of development budget?

We're staying at level 100 from now on so it makes sense that this is it more or less. I wonder how good encounters and the rest of the game's design could become if that was their primary or sole focus. To me, what I'm seeing feels like a really good time to put the jobs on the back burner and put all the budget into everything else. Still polish the jobs as they are, but I don't think it would be a problem at all to just keep them in this state. They just feel complete functionally.

There is a lot they can do without changing how they are currently function like what I described for black mage. For summoner as another example, they could make it so each demi summon has its own individual set of 3 eikons to go with it. Keep the flow of the rotation the same, but change up the power and aesthetic of the eikon phases.

They could try not homogenising everything to a terrible build a bar and 3 spender moves all based around a 2m buff window for starters. How about like they used to do and actually build the Job design into the kit instead of bolting on additional mechanics, take a look at the 3 tanks in HW and how they functioned. Each class brought something slightly different to the table and played completely different. Now if you've played one class you've played them all (Except ninja's that's still wizardry to me) takes you about 1m to sort you bar so you have the jobs single target builder aoe builder combo, and then the single and aoe spender move, literally every job.

[HikariKurosawa]

whole lot of yapping. the game has become better and better every expansion in both story and gameplay. capitalism is essential the finances of majority rules though so it's not like i have anything to worry about. if you don't like what everyone else does, maybe your perspective is the problem. calling it a hazard just because you don't like it or think it used to be better is just sensationalism though.

They could try not homogenising everything to a terrible build a bar and 3 spender moves all based around a 2m buff window for starters. How about like they used to do and actually build the Job design into the kit instead of bolting on additional mechanics, take a look at the 3 tanks in HW and how they functioned. Each class brought something slightly different to the table and played completely different. Now if you've played one class you've played them all (Except ninja's that's still wizardry to me) takes you about 1m to sort you bar so you have the jobs single target builder aoe builder combo, and then the single and aoe spender move, literally every job.

Not a single job feels like any other job in this game. I don't know what you're playing but it's not the same game I am.

[ZiraZ]

That's not whats happening here, this is just trolling.
Both sides on that image at least play the game and understand what they want even if what they want is completely opposite.
The true purpose of this thread is just shitposting and bringing down other people's enjoyment in the game down to his level, which is very low because he spends more time on the forums than in-game.
Reminder this individual spent a week arguing DRG changes without even having a DRG maxed or even understanding the core basic mechanics of DRG even after someone spent an entire night explaining it to him to no avail.

[HikariKurosawa]

That's not whats happening here, this is just trolling.
Both sides on that image at least play the game and understand what they want even if what they want is completely opposite.
The true purpose of this thread is just shitposting and bringing down other people's enjoyment in the game down to his level, which is very low because he spends more time on the forums than in-game.
Reminder this individual spent a week arguing DRG changes without even having a DRG maxed or even understanding the core basic mechanics of DRG even after someone spent an entire night explaining it to him to no avail.

I spent a few days saying that I appreciated the dragoon changes because they will reduce the potential for drift and increase the amount of times I am in LotD, both statements are true. You can pretend there is any argument in personal preference but that just makes you sound infantile.

[vetch]

That's not whats happening here, this is just trolling.
Both sides on that image at least play the game and understand what they want even if what they want is completely opposite.
The true purpose of this thread is just shitposting and bringing down other people's enjoyment in the game down to his level, which is very low because he spends more time on the forums than in-game.
Reminder this individual spent a week arguing DRG changes without even having a DRG maxed or even understanding the core basic mechanics of DRG even after someone spent an entire night explaining it to him to no avail.

Sure. All true. But trolls prey upon peoples' unwillingness to shun them. Once you know that, it's easy to shut down their fun by hijacking conversations back to real topics and having actual discussions in their threads while ignoring them, like one would ignore a child that's acting out for attention.

I would say this is even a necessary skill, given how hard it is anymore to have a normal argument without accusations of trolling being thrown around.

[ZiraZ]

I spent a few days saying that I appreciated the dragoon changes because they will reduce the potential for drift and increase the amount of times I am in LotD, both statements are true. You can pretend there is any argument in personal preference but that just makes you sound infantile.

great we swapped potential microdrift for EXTREME stiffness and gsk is HIGHLY likely gonna stay 60 seconds so basically the same time in lotd
all at the cost of a gauge and a rotation that is so stiff that it will only cause far more problems, this was not a rework it was a downgrade

[HikariKurosawa]

great we swapped potential microdrift for EXTREME stiffness and gsk is HIGHLY likely gonna stay 60 seconds so basically the same time in lotd
all at the cost of a gauge and a rotation that is so stiff that it will only cause far more problems, this was not a rework it was a downgrade

You act like the rotation for dragoon wasn't already completely set in stone when played optimally lol.

GSK cd is 30 seconds, can you explain where it was stated that they would make the cooldown higher? Oh they didn't and you're throwing a fit over baseless assumptions? Thought so. If anyone is trolling here it is you. Keep farming 1-3 likes on a forum though while you continue to seek validation for your bad takes.