Square is risking BIG lawsuit with pictomancer...

[Bun_Vivant]

You can self study law on the internet, there's a thing called online research, did u know?

You dismissed someone else's remarks because they weren't a lawyer.
Why shouldn't people dismiss your remarks for that same reason?

Unless, of course, you care to cite the sections of the pertinent statutes that support your allegation, why those statutes from that nation apply, and the relevant court decisions interpreting them ? Surely if you're well versed in copyright law, you can do that, right? In the US, it will be in Title 17 of the United States Code, but it has not been established that US copyright law applies to your allegations.

Exactly, in the law court. They will show a jury an Artist and a Pictomancer, and ask: who is who, when the jury all fail SE will be in DEEP "Trouble".

Nope, that's not how copyright law works, at least, not in any signatories to the Berne Convention that I'm aware of. You're making me doubt that your "study law on the internet" was at all productive. Did it include reading a court's opinion in a successful suit for copying a class in a video game? Does such a precedent even exist? I didn't encounter it in law school, but that was quite a while ago.

[kaynide]

Hey! Did you know you can’t copyright game mechanics? Wild, isn’t it!?

This includes board games, video games, etc etc. while you can copyright UI, art assets, etc..the concept of “character that uses painting to attack” is simply not a copyright-able thing. They could copyright how that specific mechanic is used, if it is a novel and specific thing…but it ain’t.

Examples outside, you could make a Tetris clone as long as it was different in some way (not having the exact same pieces, different shapes or grid size). It’s the same reason why we had both Doom and Wolfenstein. Or why command and conquer is essentially a Dune clone.

If enough has been done to make it distinct, it’s not infringing on an “idea”.

[Bun_Vivant]

Hey! Did you know you can’t copyright game mechanics? Wild, isn’t it!?
... It’s the same reason why we had both Doom and Wolfenstein.

Not to disagree with your point, but "Doom and Wolfenstein" is a bad example, since they were both made by id Software.

[LianaThorne]

I'm not sure which is funnier: The dude trying to turn Pictomancer into a copyright issue or the people who are still taking him seriously in their replies.

[kaynide]

Not to disagree with your point, but "Doom and Wolfenstein" is a bad example, since they were both made by id Software.

Good call; Quake and Unreal are probably better comparisons.


Or Lucasart’s Outlaws from the 90s (doom, but cowboys)

[CaptainLagbeard]

Why is there 11 pages on a troll thread...

But no, there's nothing there. It's literally based off a character from FF6, from 1994.

[Sacae]

This isn't *entirely* true. It's not a copyright, but Square Enix, for example, has a patent on the ATB battle system.

This thread in general is ridiculous, though. OP has no idea what he's talking about.

[DPZ2]

It's the Korean game company... they own maple stories, lost ark, and deep dungeon fighter

Congratulations. You managed to identify Nexon, the producer of MapleStories. However, you failed to identify the actual producer of Lost Ark, which is definitely not Nexon. Smilegate RPG/Tripod Studio and Amazon Games own Lost Ark.

You've managed to ignore this for over a week now: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ancer.../page3

Give it a rest. Your ten hours of Google-Fu were worthless.

[Themarvin]

I don't know if they took inspiration from Artist from LoA, but I'm worried about BIG lawsuit coming from Nixon. Since Nixon owns LoA and has been very aggressive about lawsuit before. The only saving grace is that they are in Korea and Square is in Japan so it will be harder for them to sue. I think Square made a huge mistake because Pictomancer is too like Artist... If Nixon sues Square successfully they may need to delete Pictomancer from the game as a settlement, so hold off on leveling it for now... Wait and see.

Not really, it is an old concept, and that is all you can say about that and if anything, then they are going to lose the case and that is all that can be said about that.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Give it a rest. Your ten hours of Google-Fu were worthless.

He got you to give him attention. That's all he was ever really after with this thread anyway.