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    I also wouldn’t be surprised to see another expansion of shield healer dominance

    What do the regen healers even offer at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I also wouldn’t be surprised to see another expansion of shield healer dominance

    What do the regen healers even offer at this point
    idk, when I swapped to scholar on p8sp2 week 1 to accomodate a friend's friend, having whm regen for the single target DoTs in the later half was such a godsend. Initially they refused to heal them at all and yelled about their glare uptime, but let me tell you: using all your aetherflow and then alternating aldo/physic just for someone to barely live tells me why regen healers are still good. Another thing about scholar is you rely on regen healer's throughput a lot. There are time where you just don't have the tools to recover HP bars from a mechanic during prog or you end up having to replace dps meld with piety just so you can emergency tactics succor/adlo enough times to make up for a lack of throughput healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I also wouldn’t be surprised to see another expansion of shield healer dominance

    What do the regen healers even offer at this point
    Especially when SCH/SGE were given MORE healing tools rather than mitigation from what we see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaytex View Post
    Especially when SCH/SGE were given MORE healing tools rather than mitigation from what we see.
    It’s why i dont support pankardia in any way except if it replaces physis as a skill. SGE doesn’t 3 short CD party wide regens. It already has by far the highest throughput of the 4 healers

    Seraphism as a 4th spreadlo amplifier just shows they have literally no idea how modern SCH works considering this is just gonna lead to SCH deleting mechanics in lesbian power ultimate till they buff SGE and then regen healers get pushed even further towards the edges
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It’s why i dont support pankardia in any way except if it replaces physis as a skill. SGE doesn’t 3 short CD party wide regens. It already has by far the highest throughput of the 4 healers

    Seraphism as a 4th spreadlo amplifier just shows they have literally no idea how modern SCH works considering this is just gonna lead to SCH deleting mechanics in lesbian power ultimate till they buff SGE and then regen healers get pushed even further towards the edges
    I'd replace Ixochole or Kerachole with it actually. Why can't Addersgall be spent on Soteria, AOE Kardia, and other things that actually interact with Sage's identity?

    Also what is "lesbian power ultimate"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I'd replace Ixochole or Kerachole with it actually. Why can't Addersgall be spent on Soteria, AOE Kardia, and other things that actually interact with Sage's identity?

    Also what is "lesbian power ultimate"?
    Whatever the eden ultimate is. I can never remember its name but since it relates to Ryne and Gaia I just call it lesbian power

    As for your suggestion that doesn’t bother me either but at least kerechole does interact with a shield healer identity, ixochole can die in a ditch though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Whatever the eden ultimate is. I can never remember its name but since it relates to Ryne and Gaia I just call it lesbian power

    As for your suggestion that doesn’t bother me either but at least kerechole does interact with a shield healer identity, ixochole can die in a ditch though
    I disagree. I think Kerachole being primarily a powerful regen really clashes with the barrier aspect of Sage. If it were a barrier and mitigation instead of a regen, that would make more sense, but I'd still prefer that Addersgall be focused on healing through DPS rather than just flat healing. If Addersgall were generated with certain GCD actions in some fashion, then I think that could be cool also, because then it's healing you generate through DPS.

    Also, now I get it. It didn't click with me the first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I'd replace Ixochole or Kerachole with it actually. Why can't Addersgall be spent on Soteria, AOE Kardia, and other things that actually interact with Sage's identity?

    Also what is "lesbian power ultimate"?
    Ixochole would be interesting to be replaced with pankardia.
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