Are we going to keep pretending that PC and console players are the same?

[PercibelTheren]

Of course it does - if I understand you correctly.

Cheaters destroy the value of the ultimate weapons. You are no longer impressed by seeing someone with that weapon, you assume he is probably a cheater.

So why should I invest time and effort in earning those weapons myself when they don't have any value anymore?

Yesyes I know: "the fights are fun" or "but you know you have earned them"

But that's just hot air.

Why did they even added these shiny weapons in the first place? People want a proper reward for their achievments.

But it also works in the other direction: If I see so many people in Limsa who have used cheats to obtain their ultimate weapons - why shouldn't I use them as well? It obviously works and SE does nothing against it. And why stop there? I can cheat my way through all sorts of content!

I know this isn't the point of the discussion but I would genuinely like to know this - are people actually impressed by shiny weapons and titles? The only time I even notice them is when an Ultimate Legend tank gets too confident and goes splat on the first pull of something like Pharos Sirius because it gives me a giggle, but that's about it.

[Bonoki]

I know this isn't the point of the discussion but I would genuinely like to know this - are people actually impressed by shiny weapons and titles? The only time I even notice them is when an Ultimate Legend tank gets too confident and goes splat on the first pull of something like Pharos Sirius because it gives me a giggle, but that's about it.

Some people are still impressed by shiny weapons and titles, though this group is shrinking over time. This decline is largely due to the game becoming easier and achievements losing their integrity with the rise of third-party tools. The meaning of these rewards hasn't diminished because people chose to stop caring; it's a consequence of the game's simplification. For example, the Necromancer title was once arguably the most prestigious achievement in the game, sought after by many players. Today, however, it no longer impresses most people.

Furthermore, the value of a title is heavily influenced by the player demographic. If many raiders value a raid title, it holds considerable weight. Conversely, if the larger casual audience dismisses it with a "Who cares" attitude, the title loses its significance. Ultimately, the prestige of any achievement is driven by the community's perception.