Are we going to keep pretending that PC and console players are the same?

[Turtledeluxe]

Of course it does - if I understand you correctly.

Cheaters destroy the value of the ultimate weapons. You are no longer impressed by seeing someone with that weapon, you assume he is probably a cheater.

So why should I invest time and effort in earning those weapons myself when they don't have any value anymore?

Yesyes I know: "the fights are fun" or "but you know you have earned them"

But that's just hot air.

Why did they even added these shiny weapons in the first place? People want a proper reward for their achievments.

But it also works in the other direction: If I see so many people in Limsa who have used cheats to obtain their ultimate weapons - why shouldn't I use them as well? It obviously works and SE does nothing against it. And why stop there? I can cheat my way through all sorts of content!

Because the value does not come from other people. It comes from yourself. The reason cheaters do not affect me and why I do not care about anti cheat is simply because, although I do not participate in most high end content (I've done some min ilvl older stuff for fun and that's about it), I am extremely confident I could accomplish that content with ease.

That said, I'm not willing to put in the time and effort into something like that, based on the experience I already have.

Though I suppose it's a fair point that it makes them "not rare" if it becomes prevalent enough. I don't really consider the minor amount of people in Limsa on any given world evidence that it's extremely prevalent. I can't think of any other map where I see them condensed in that way.

As far as rare weapons btw, I'd say the ARR/HW relics are suitable for that. Not many people seem willing to do that grind.