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  1. #161
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    Mouthbone's Avatar
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    Barabhar Haelbroes
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    Odin
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Did anyone over on the JP side voice any of their complaints?
    The robes and dinky wings are going to look so bad on male roe
    I know that XIV only really caters to female bodies, but this is too much
    I'm worried that transform skills are going to become a trend
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  2. #162
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mouthbone View Post
    Did anyone over on the JP side voice any of their complaints?
    The robes and dinky wings are going to look so bad on male roe
    I know that XIV only really caters to female bodies, but this is too much
    I'm worried that transform skills are going to become a trend
    It’s the only change on the JP side that got two different threads opposing it so yeah they don’t like it
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  3. #163
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    Barabhar Haelbroes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It’s the only change on the JP side that got two different threads opposing it so yeah they don’t like it
    That's a relief, hopefully if they won't remove it they will at least adjust it
    Although this close to release, that seems very unlikely
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  4. #164
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Zodiark
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    The only thing the lore book says that I'm aware of is "With soul crystals providing an anchor for their existence, these otherworldly servants are made manifest through the accumulated aether of past nymian mages." Which doesn't really say anything, but wraps it up in flowery language. The angel feathers description is a quote from some npc that got fixed by it so is also nearly entirely devoid of any information. The warrior limit break specifically mentions it as being the party's gathered aether, so quite how much of any of this still counts after dynamos was added is a mystery - taking things at face value, astral statis might no longer work post myths if the heavens all got deleted when the pantheon was replaced by an ansaphone.

    Do EE2 and EE3 say anything about seraph? I don't know and I'm not paying for the pair of them to find out.
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  5. #165
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    > Play the fairy class
    > There are fairies
    > "I hate this change they made about bringing more fairies to the fairy class"
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  6. #166
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    > Play the fairy class
    > There are fairies
    > "I hate this change they made about bringing more fairies to the fairy class"
    > play the battle tactician class
    > get Christmas tree topper robes
    > “yes this change is perfectly thematically consistent”
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  7. #167
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    > Play the fairy class
    > There are fairies
    > "I hate this change they made about bringing more fairies to the fairy class"
    Except there's nothing 'fairy' about the transformation.

    white robes with golden feathery wings do not resemble any of the following:

    Eos: yellow and turquise/green fairy with butterfly wings
    Selene: yellow and purple fairy with butterfly wings
    Seraph: blue and white fairy with feathered wings
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  8. #168
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Now that's more of a valid point, except that fairies have Always been this important in XIV's scholars. They are tacticians, yes, but the job has Always been about fairies.

    You dont like the class's identity, and that's fair. It's still not a change, but a continuation. Eating up your fairy to enhance yourself was the disruption, DT's changes are just a return to traditional SCH identity.

    And yes, wings do not have anything to do with fairies, my bad.
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  9. #169
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    The job has been about fairies……..being used as a tool by the SCH. In terms of lore there is functionally no different between the fairy and the SCH’s ability to use aetherflow. They are tools and tactics the SCH can use

    This doesn’t work with this weird angelic transformation that barely connects to fairies anyway but even so breaks the distinct visual split between the fairy and the SCH

    If this was like a military coat fading into existence around us that would be thematic even if the skill effect didn’t change

    Dissipation is arguably the most thematic skill to SCH, deciding to trade one “tool” temporarily for another tool

    Not this weird angelic look
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  10. #170
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Ragnarok
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    Yeah. You're talking about another game, brother. A game whose tacticians you like more. It's alright. There are a lot of jobs you can pick from, if you really dislike that aesthetic.
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