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  1. #11
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Or give Deployment Tactics stacks and make it applicable to enemies with dot. Now we don’t need one extra button that we don’t press during High End content.
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    Other scholars: "give us miasma, give us bane"

    me, greedily rubbing his hands together "take away energy drain and never give it back"
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    Other scholars: "give us miasma, give us bane"

    me, greedily rubbing his hands together "take away energy drain and never give it back"
    Go play SGE if you want an energy drain’less shield healer considering without energy drain they play exactly the same
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    V'els Wen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    SGE only has a DPS edge in less than 8 man content so that part is fine but honestly it’s likely eukarsian dyskrasia won’t be a gain on 1 so the new DOT is basically a dungeon trait

    I would bet money on it being like 300 potency per target, a large gain over dyskrasia but a loss compared to dosis
    I think that's very likely as well, but it just feels weird for Scholar to have lost Bane and Miasma II only to give a Miasma II-esque skill to another healer 2 expansions later. I want Bane back
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    V'els Wen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    Other scholars: "give us miasma, give us bane"

    me, greedily rubbing his hands together "take away energy drain and never give it back"
    They did and so many people complained they added it back 2 weeks later. The priority system for Scholar heals is entirely dependent on the existence of Energy Drain, and is one of the most interesting elements of playing the job. Please stop complaining about this and play a different healer if you don't like it. You do not need to use Energy Drain if you need the Aetherflow heals, and can get by just fine without it. This is also not the thread to discuss this, please stay on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velswen View Post
    I think that's very likely as well, but it just feels weird for Scholar to have lost Bane and Miasma II only to give a Miasma II-esque skill to another healer 2 expansions later. I want Bane back
    It very much feels like they want to force SCH players to all swap to SGE but don't quite know how to do it properly.

    I assume they want to force every remaining HW/SB SCH player off the job so they can rework the job into something as mindless as SMN.

    As for the thread title, yes give us back Bane, I'd rather have that back than a singular AoE DoT every 120 seconds.
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  7. #17
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    There is one thing I’m worried about in regards for forcing SCH players off SCH

    we are getting another amplifier to GCD heals and a CD reduction to recitation. I’m worried they are trying to delete deployment tactics and if you want a big shield you should just be expected to use seraphism (and potentially dissipation) to recite succor instead

    Can you imagine a 1 minute CD recitation with 4 spreadlo amplifiers (and when you don’t need spreadlo you have a 1 minute pnuema). It’s just beyond broken unless they delete deployment

    Also obligatory bring back bane or allow deployment to deployment to act as bane
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 05-20-2024 at 12:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velswen View Post
    They did and so many people complained they added it back 2 weeks later. The priority system for Scholar heals is entirely dependent on the existence of Energy Drain, and is one of the most interesting elements of playing the job. Please stop complaining about this and play a different healer if you don't like it. You do not need to use Energy Drain if you need the Aetherflow heals, and can get by just fine without it. This is also not the thread to discuss this, please stay on topic.
    Yeah I remember when they rfinally emoved energy drain and scholar was at it's best more enjoyable version. It's obvious why energy drain should be removed but I already know that people are so attached to it that it sends them into a fury when you suggest it's removal. Energy drain is one and only reason aetherflow has remained the same for scholar since excog was introduced in stormblood and aetherflow is unlikely to grow as long as Energy Drain still exists as we know it today. Mark my words it will get removed or changed drastically at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    It very much feels like they want to force SCH players to all swap to SGE but don't quite know how to do it properly.

    I assume they want to force every remaining HW/SB SCH player off the job so they can rework the job into something as mindless as SMN.

    As for the thread title, yes give us back Bane, I'd rather have that back than a singular AoE DoT every 120 seconds.
    Just so you know, game designers never design a job in hopes that people stop playing it. Once you know a class designer or two, or when you become one these kind of conspiracy theories are really funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post

    Also obligatory bring back bane or allow deployment to deployment to act as bane
    I would love this so much
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    Last edited by Zolvolt; 05-20-2024 at 12:14 PM.

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    Lala Astera
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    Warrior Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    There is one thing I’m worried about in regards for forcing SCH players off SCH

    we are getting another amplifier to GCD heals and a CD reduction to recitation. I’m worried they are trying to delete deployment tactics and if you want a big shield you should just be expected to use seraphism (and potentially dissipation) to recite succor instead

    Can you imagine a 1 minute CD recitation with 4 spreadlo amplifiers (and when you don’t need recitation you have a 1 minute pnuema). It’s just beyond broken unless they delete deployment

    Also obligatory bring back bane or allow deployment to deployment to act as bane
    I remember hearing someone theorize that since every healer is getting a new healing button, an old one will be removed since they just don't have the hotbar space anymore. I'm genuinely fearing for the fate of earthly star, assize, or deploy. It's unimaginable and awful enough that i think it might actually happen.
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  10. #20
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Energy Drain is nice because it adds a decision-making component to SCH's gameplay.

    I'd personally have wanted all of the healers to have a resource that can be burned on offensive or defensive/healing abilities so there's more of a skill curve involved with each job.
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