Combat system is beyond saving.

[Vyrerus]

As I've said before Macchiato, sub away, I and many others thank you for your angry money. I don't understand it, but it's your money.

I mean, there's plenty of reasons to keep someone subbed even if they don't like the game.

Housing is the biggest, explicit one. Some houses took the efforts of entire FCs to obtain originally, and some long time hold outs hold onto those because of not only the perceived value but the memory of what it took to acquire the house.

Another reason is OF access. You can't access the forum if you can't login, so you can't unsubscribe and participate in the forum discussions. Which, fruitless though they may be, probably help with boredom and venting.

Third reason would be socialization. I.E. Friends or at least social groups/places to hang around in from the comfort of your own home. There's no small amount of streamers or other gaming social networks that use XIV as a gathering point/common point of interest. Even a bad game is still fun with friends. Anything can be made fun with friends.

And fourth, if it's as Caffe Macchiato says, then they feel like there's no other space that gives this experience, even though other MMOs still make more money and have higher player counts (WoW and Runescape).

People are angry because they care and care too much. And are angry that they care. It's a vicious cycle. Not too hard to understand imo.

[xivYuiM]

People are angry because they care and care too much. And are angry that they care. It's a vicious cycle. Not too hard to understand imo.

This is a lot of it for me. I do have an FC house that would prevent me from unsubbing and also as much as I doompost or cry about the game it's like I said before, I have been subbed almost constantly since patch 2.1 and I believe that until patch 4.0 FFXIV was genuinely one of the best online games I have ever played. I have like 6500 hrs played now and I will likely sub until they shut the servers down for good but I am more concerned with not only making my time on the game as enjoyable as possible but also it is just sad to see the slow and painful death of something that I had previously held in such high esteem.

[PercibelTheren]

And fourth, if it's as Caffe Macchiato says, then they feel like there's no other space that gives this experience, even though other MMOs still make more money and have higher player counts (WoW and Runescape).

I honestly get this point. MMOs in general seem to be on their way out, there aren't many good ones and if I have to pick between FFXIV (which I like, just not nearly as much as I used to), WoW (which I never enjoyed much and also is an ActiBlizz game, so I refuse to support it) and Runescape (the appeal of which I will NEVER understand) then yeah, FFXIV any day.

A lot of MMOs are either obscure with a ton of issues or old and on life support. I miss RIFT in its heyday. It had a lot of great ideas for dynamic zone events and build variety. I miss Wildstar. It wasn't perfect, but I had a ton of fun playing it.