Welp, the Xbox version is dead in the water. What were they thinking?

[LinkPK]

I've invested more than 500 hours on this game on Xbox already. I was so happy I could finally play with my brother, who has been playing for 10 years now. I just realized that as an Xbox player, I have to pay the whole game and all its expansions+monthly game pass+FFXIV monthly subscription.

What the actual hell?

I'm sorry because I really enjoy and love the game but I'm gonna have to abandon it, because I refuse to pay three times to play one 10 year old game. 30€ a month for a game? Nah, I'm sorry greedysoft.
I thought I only needed GamePass to play it, as it happened somehow on the PlayStation: You only had to pay the FFXIV sub to play it. No PSPlus required.

Now Microsoft wants me to pay BOTH things? Hell no. I'm struggling enough in life to pay that much money to play a videogame.
Don't get me wrong, I love Final Fantasy since I was a kid, but I'd rather pay my bills and eat than playing a game.

It pains me because I've been enjoying it so much so far as you can see on my profile. Almost every character at max level (lvl 70 with the cap, of course), but this is goodbye.
I've created an FC and it leveled up a lot. Daily EXP boosts and different for the weekends. Got a nice housing at The Goblet. Duties and raids together as a party. Made really good friends along the way. All goes to the bin.

I hope, I really hope devs read this and help us out, but I doubt it.

Cheers,

Link

[Boblawblah]

I've invested more than 500 hours on this game on Xbox already. I was so happy I could finally play with my brother, who has been playing for 10 years now. I just realized that as an Xbox player, I have to pay the whole game and all its expansions+monthly game pass+FFXIV monthly subscription.

What the actual hell?

I'm sorry because I really enjoy and love the game but I'm gonna have to abandon it, because I refuse to pay three times to play one 10 year old game. 30€ a month for a game? Nah, I'm sorry greedysoft.
I thought I only needed GamePass to play it, as it happened somehow on the PlayStation: You only had to pay the FFXIV sub to play it. No PSPlus required.

Now Microsoft wants me to pay BOTH things? Hell no. I'm struggling enough in life to pay that much money to play a videogame.
Don't get me wrong, I love Final Fantasy since I was a kid, but I'd rather pay my bills and eat than playing a game.

It pains me because I've been enjoying it so much so far as you can see on my profile. Almost every character at max level (lvl 70 with the cap, of course), but this is goodbye.
I've created an FC and it leveled up a lot. Daily EXP boosts and different for the weekends. Got a nice housing at The Goblet. Duties and raids together as a party. Made really good friends along the way. All goes to the bin.

I hope, I really hope devs read this and help us out, but I doubt it.

Cheers,

Link

I think you have to think of it like this:

Are you going to use gamepass regardless of FFXIV? If so, you're good. If you don't use gamepass other than FFXIV then you're paying twice.

Unless the real issue is, you just don't like the idea of paying a monthly sub for an mmo when you're already paying for gamepass (even though you play other games on it).

[Taliriah]

I think you have to think of it like this:

Are you going to use gamepass regardless of FFXIV? If so, you're good. If you don't use gamepass other than FFXIV then you're paying twice.

Unless the real issue is, you just don't like the idea of paying a monthly sub for an mmo when you're already paying for gamepass (even though you play other games on it).

I think they simply don't like that ms forces you to pay them (MS) a sub in one way or another to play a game whose servers are managed by a third party (to whom you also play a sub, but there it's justified: they're the one providing the actual service). Not everyone adheres to the monthly sub model of gamepass, some people are happy to own their games.

Honestly I never understood how console players ever tolerated that kind of BS. I worked on an online game (that didn't require a sub) and I remember being dumbfounded at the fact that our console players had to pay sony/ms a sub to be able to access most functionalities (when we, not them, were the ones managing and incurring the servers costs! incidentally were were also the ones in charge of all the work of limiting functionalities accordingly and to display upsell screens for sony/ms subscription BS)

[LuminaLumi]

I've invested more than 500 hours on this game on Xbox already. I was so happy I could finally play with my brother, who has been playing for 10 years now. I just realized that as an Xbox player, I have to pay the whole game and all its expansions+monthly game pass+FFXIV monthly subscription.

What the actual hell?

I'm sorry because I really enjoy and love the game but I'm gonna have to abandon it, because I refuse to pay three times to play one 10 year old game. 30€ a month for a game? Nah, I'm sorry greedysoft.
I thought I only needed GamePass to play it, as it happened somehow on the PlayStation: You only had to pay the FFXIV sub to play it. No PSPlus required.

Now Microsoft wants me to pay BOTH things? Hell no. I'm struggling enough in life to pay that much money to play a videogame.
Don't get me wrong, I love Final Fantasy since I was a kid, but I'd rather pay my bills and eat than playing a game.

It pains me because I've been enjoying it so much so far as you can see on my profile. Almost every character at max level (lvl 70 with the cap, of course), but this is goodbye.
I've created an FC and it leveled up a lot. Daily EXP boosts and different for the weekends. Got a nice housing at The Goblet. Duties and raids together as a party. Made really good friends along the way. All goes to the bin.

I hope, I really hope devs read this and help us out, but I doubt it.

Cheers,

Link

I agree that it's bs that you have to have an active Game Pass Core (Xbox Live Gold) or Ultimate to access the game. However, even if you were to change platform you would still have to buy the game + expansions on those platforms too. In addition, the game subscription is 12,99€ for starter membership (includes 1 character per server) and Game Pass Core is 6,99€ per month so it's 20, not 30. You can also very easily buy prepaid Game Pass Core/Ultimate cards online and stock up for a good while for cheap.

While we're at it, I'll add some issues on the Xbox client they've yet to fix: the language filter and terrible loading times. Try dying in an alliance raid and getting ressed, or try a fight where you have to change areas (like Cerberus' stomach). You'll see what I mean.

[PrincessLily]

I agree that it's bs that you have to have an active Game Pass Core (Xbox Live Gold) or Ultimate to access the game. However, even if you were to change platform you would still have to buy the game + expansions on those platforms too. In addition, the game subscription is 12,99€ for starter membership (includes 1 character per server) and Game Pass Core is 6,99€ per month so it's 20, not 30. You can also very easily buy prepaid Game Pass Core/Ultimate cards online and stock up for a good while for cheap.

While we're at it, I'll add some issues on the Xbox client they've yet to fix: the language filter and terrible loading times. Try dying in an alliance raid and getting ressed, or try a fight where you have to change areas (like Cerberus' stomach). You'll see what I mean.

I was thinking was just me with terrible loading, definitely needs fixed ASAP.