Solution 9 - Unfounded Speculation!

[MikkoAkure]

A pretty solid theory I've seen on Twitter for that red sign in the Arcadeon that people were fixated on: What if it's the Armodullahan from FFIX?

It looks like part of Ultima’s glyph from FFXII upside-down now that I see it closer. And that’s where the Ascian glyphs come from.

I don’t exist on Twitter/reddit, was this possibility already discussed there?


Edit: my extremely rough analysis:

[Cleretic]

It looks like part of Ultima’s glyph from FFXII upside-down now that I see it closer. And that’s where the Ascian glyphs come from.

I don’t exist on Twitter/reddit, was this possibility already discussed there?


Edit: my extremely rough analysis:

That theory came from Twitter, and is extremely easily debunked, because they don't look anything alike.

The Ascian glyphs are exact pulls from parts of the XII Esper sigils, one-to-one. They don't look 'sort of maybe' like part of it, you can overlay them near-perfectly. In fact, I have done that in a video to prove exactly this point; the imperfection here comes from the fact Emet's face is at a slight angle, not any alteration to the sigil.



People saw a red sign and wanted it to be an Ascian, it doesn't track whatsoever.

[MikkoAkure]

That theory came from Twitter, and is extremely easily debunked, because they don't look anything alike.

The Ascian glyphs are exact pulls from parts of the XII Esper sigils, one-to-one. They don't look 'sort of maybe' like part of it, you can overlay them near-perfectly. In fact, I have done that in a video to prove exactly this point.

People saw a red sign and wanted it to be an Ascian, it doesn't track whatsoever.

Obviously it's not 1-to-1 and it's not on an actual person's face, but it looks like it could be a stylized version of it copied over and over for a long time to a point where it's lost its original meaning.

I think the three lines on each side + horns + spiky crown + mess in the middle + wavy line on the bottom stand out and makes a more compelling or at least more interesting argument than an obscure boss.


Until release we can say just about anything since we don't have anything to really go on and this is the unfounded speculation thread.

If I wanted to really get my tin foil hat on I could say that the script under the 6 vertical lines is proto-Eorzean for "X", "upside-down L", "T", "I", "backwards M", "upside-down S": "Xltims", and that after getting killed by Gaius and reforming incompletely, Altima suffered amnesia/soul damage and can barely write her name or form her glyph anymore but a half-remembered mission on a shard resulted in her bringing a whole bunch of people to the Source in Solution Nine. Or she did show up long ago on a shard and the gylph became a symbol of being saved and over thousands of years became what we see now.

[Cleretic]

Obviously it's not 1-to-1 and it's not on an actual person's face, but it looks like it could be a stylized version of it copied over and over for a long time to a point where it's lost its original meaning.

I think the three lines on each side + horns + spiky crown + mess in the middle + wavy line on the bottom stand out and makes a more compelling or at least more interesting argument than an obscure boss.


Until release we can say just about anything since we don't have anything to really go on and this is the unfounded speculation thread.

If I wanted to really get my tin foil hat on I could say that the script under the 6 vertical lines is proto-Eorzean for "X", "upside-down L", "T", "I", "backwards M", "upside-down S": "Xltims", and that after getting killed by Gaius and reforming incompletely, Altima suffered amnesia/soul damage and can barely write her name or form her glyph anymore but a half-remembered mission on a shard resulted in her bringing a whole bunch of people to the Source in Solution Nine. Or she did show up long ago on a shard and the gylph became a symbol of being saved and over thousands of years became what we see now.

Okay, then what's this part?



Because here's the thing: that red sign wasn't the only thing in that art. It wasn't even the central thing in that art; my eyeballing says it's not even 10% of the picture. It's just the only thing most people are speculating about, because 'what if it's an Ascian' caught on as a theory really quick and some people really want that story arc to not be put to bed, despite its evidence being tenuous as hell. But I've never once seen the theory stretch to include any of the rest of the art.

If we accept that the red sign is reflective of a probably-filler boss that we may or may not have seen in a previous Final Fantasy game, these demon heads track: obviously those are another boss even if we don't have an ID for them, they certainly don't resemble anything in FFIX. But they're clearly deliberately designed, all three heads have different horn shapes, so it's not just a generic 'here be demons' sign.

So if the red sign is against all odds an Ascian, what are the demon heads?