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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    But at some point in the difficulty curve you have to introduce in a mechanical pass-fail check that causes a raid wipe. If a player can't get over that fact psychologically, they're never going to put themselves in a place where they'll be challenged, regardless of how you brand the content difficulty level.
    That's what Dun Scaith and Ivalice did and they were not extremes either (or CLL/Dalriada). Far from it.
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    That's what Dun Scaith and Ivalice did and they were not extremes either (or CLL/Dalriada). Far from it.
    Those encounters rely on a confluence of errors from multiple players at the same time as a requirement to fail the encounter. I'm referring to personal responsibility, as in encounters where every player present has to know how to execute every mechanic. You'll never see that in 24p content. You won't even see it in BA/DRS.

    Either fights have personal responsibility or they don't. There's no way to gradually ease you into content that has it. You have to dive into it, and you'll either sink or swim.
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