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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    I think it's incredibly disrespectful to be queueing into anything with less than appropriate gear. What sort of message does it send to everyone else you're playing with if you're queueing into things practically missing gear? To me, it shows you're either disrespectful of everyone else there and don't care about their time, or it shows that you're just incompetent and weren't aware, one of which I'd argue is much better than the other. I'm not asking for perfection, I'm not even asking for "good." I'm asking for the bare minimum.
    Is it disrespect or lack of knowledge, especially in lower level content? Not everyone is a MMORPG veteran. Not everyone has prior gaming experience, let alone experience with games that are heavily gear dependent when it comes to player power.

    The additional time it takes to clear leveling content because one player barely meets the ilvl requirements is a couple of minutes at best. It's the lack of skill and/or effort that causes duties to drag on far longer than necessary.

    Having a holier than thou attitude when encountering players lacking knowledge is not going to encourage them to ask questions or take advice when it comes to improvement.

    As for only asking for the bare minimum, that is the minimum you're getting when you're encountering other players through Duty Finder matching. If they didn't meet the bare minimum ilvl requirements for the content, the game wouldn't allow them to queue.

    If you were talking about people trying to get a spot in a PF for current high end content, I'd agree with you. Someone trying to get into EX, Savage or Ultimate should know how to gear properly before joining. That's not what you're talking about, though.

    Honestly, tone it back a bit and relax when it comes to leveling content. You're looking for trouble where there is none. Wait until the party runs into actual trouble before you start obsessing over what others are wearing.
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    Cinnamon Maruhira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Is it disrespect or lack of knowledge, especially in lower level content? Not everyone is a MMORPG veteran. Not everyone has prior gaming experience, let alone experience with games that are heavily gear dependent when it comes to player power.

    The additional time it takes to clear leveling content because one player barely meets the ilvl requirements is a couple of minutes at best. It's the lack of skill and/or effort that causes duties to drag on far longer than necessary.

    Having a holier than thou attitude when encountering players lacking knowledge is not going to encourage them to ask questions or take advice when it comes to improvement.

    As for only asking for the bare minimum, that is the minimum you're getting when you're encountering other players through Duty Finder matching. If they didn't meet the bare minimum ilvl requirements for the content, the game wouldn't allow them to queue.

    If you were talking about people trying to get a spot in a PF for current high end content, I'd agree with you. Someone trying to get into EX, Savage or Ultimate should know how to gear properly before joining. That's not what you're talking about, though.

    Honestly, tone it back a bit and relax when it comes to leveling content. You're looking for trouble where there is none. Wait until the party runs into actual trouble before you start obsessing over what others are wearing.
    It doesn't really matter whether it's disrespect or lack of knowledge. One is much easier to remedy than the other. I've queued into the dusk vigil with a scholar wearing the book that drops from the stone vigil. They couldn't keep me alive as a tank, not for lack of me using mits, but because the book they were using just couldn't keep up. So I told them they needed an upgrade. Their response was "oh sorry, I didn't know." Easy, problem solved, now they know. No attitude, no insults, no ill will, easy.

    Now lets compare that to the dancer from the ridoranna lighthouse who told me that I needed to mind my own business and that their lack of an appropriate weapon wasn't their fault. There was zero accountability there, they didn't care that they were a detriment, and you know what the best part was? We didn't get tech step a single time, meaning they either just never used it, or they never did their job quest. This point, I feel, feeds into both of our points. Mine of disrespect, and yours of laziness is a bigger issue.

    However, this all said, I fail to see how making the ilvl requirement stricter would be a detriment. There are fundamental problems with some players. This solution would not be a cure for that, but it certainly would help in forcing players to be more responsible and considerate of the other people they're queueing with, even if they fail to see that.
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