Easiest solution to the gil-farm/FC-house hoarding situation

[LianaThorne]

Lock ceruleum tanks to free company credits. Disable trade.
This will distinguish between the shell FCs and legit FCs.

Lock the magitek repairs in crafting too. Do not make them tradable.

Ofc some of these house hoarders will still go out of their way but limiting ceruleum tanks will be a strong blow against it.

1. This isn't a solution because it's easy enough to farm credits w/ a mix of crafting and GC turn ins via Expert Delivery.

2. It won't distinguish anything because a 4 man FC of friends can do ultimately do less contribution than one person with a lot of gil. Again, expert delivery.

3. Locking magitek repairs to crafting is kind of pointless since people who own submarines usually have crafters unlocked lol. So, that's not gonna change much except force them to use their crafter over buying off the MB. The materials themselves will still be tradable, even if the end product isn't anymore.

[tsuchii]

1. This isn't a solution because it's easy enough to farm credits w/ a mix of crafting and GC turn ins via Expert Delivery.

2. It won't distinguish anything because a 4 man FC of friends can do ultimately do less contribution than one person with a lot of gil. Again, expert delivery.

3. Locking magitek repairs to crafting is kind of pointless since people who own submarines usually have crafters unlocked lol. So, that's not gonna change much except force them to use their crafter over buying off the MB. The materials themselves will still be tradable, even if the end product isn't anymore.

1. It is hard with a Level 50 alt made to just purchase a house. Cereleum tanks burn fast and credits are not easy to farm with a low level character.
2. ^
3. Again, not easy. Well, at least someone who intend to buy 20 houses would know they would have to level 20 crafters, making it even a little bit more difficult.

Nuking houses from people when there are thousands of FCs left across all data centers is just going to piss people off. I'd be more open to it if there literally was not a single FC house left, but there are plenty.

Is this just another: "But...I want muh mansion!!!!!!" thread disguised as submarines?

Yea, nuke the houses of greedy players who bought entire wards for themselves. Let it be empty for future FCs.
It's not a disguised thread. I've been playing for a long time and I own personal and fc houses across data centres. It's just that for a feature with scarcity, it's unbelievable how easy it is to cheat the loopholes of owning shell FCs.

[LianaThorne]

1. It is hard with a Level 50 alt made to just purchase a house. Cereleum tanks burn fast and credits are not easy to farm with a low level character.
2. ^
3. Again, not easy. Well, at least someone who intend to buy 20 houses would know they would have to level 20 crafters, making it even a little bit more difficult.



Yea, nuke the houses of greedy players who bought entire wards for themselves. Let it be empty for future FCs.
It's not a disguised thread. I've been playing for a long time and I own personal and fc houses across data centres. It's just that for a feature with scarcity, it's unbelievable how easy it is to cheat the loopholes of owning shell FCs.

1. It is not hard, at all. Especially on dead servers. If you're making an alt with the purpose of farming gil, you should be going into it with gil to begin with lol.

2. ^ there's literally a guide that shows you the fastest way to level a character and FC to purchase a house by the 30d mark.

3. Levekits exist to make the process take a day per crafter or less. Again, if you're getting into the alt game you should have gil ready to blow.
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So if you multi-own yourself, what's the end goal? Would you give up your houses as well to other people or is this just a "ward owners only" thing? You don't technically need all of the houses as I'm sure you don't actively play every single character you have a house with right?

[tsuchii]

1. It is not hard, at all. Especially on dead servers. If you're making an alt with the purpose of farming gil, you should be going into it with gil to begin with lol.

2. ^ there's literally a guide that shows you the fastest way to level a character and FC to purchase a house by the 30d mark.

3. Levekits exist to make the process take a day per crafter or less. Again, if you're getting into the alt game you should have gil ready to blow.
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So if you multi-own yourself, what's the end goal? Would you give up your houses as well to other people or is this just a "ward owners only" thing? You don't technically need all of the houses right?

Expert delivery itself as a means to get credits is flawed on itself, honestly. FC credits should be made with FC activity.

I use both my personal houses in both servers and my FC with my FC house is an actual FC with my friends and people in it.
FC housing was designed to be for FCs not for individuals who want to own entire wards to generate in-game currency. It's not even remotely comparable.

[LianaThorne]

1. It is hard with a Level 50 alt made to just purchase a house. Cereleum tanks burn fast and credits are not easy to farm with a low level character.
2. ^
3. Again, not easy. Well, at least someone who intend to buy 20 houses would know they would have to level 20 crafters, making it even a little bit more difficult.



Yea, nuke the houses of greedy players who bought entire wards for themselves. Let it be empty for future FCs.
It's not a disguised thread. I've been playing for a long time and I own personal and fc houses across data centres. It's just that for a feature with scarcity, it's unbelievable how easy it is to cheat the loopholes of owning shell FCs.

Expert delivery itself as a means to get credits is flawed on itself, honestly. FC credits should be made with FC activity.

I use both my personal houses in both servers and my FC with my FC house is an actual FC with my friends and people in it.
FC housing was designed to be for FCs not for individuals who want to own entire wards to generate in-game currency. It's not even remotely comparable.

You said FC houses, plural. Not just one. I'll wait.

Privates are irrelevant to the discussion anyway since they have nothing to do with submarines.

Dunno why it included the first quote, mobile things.

[Doozer]

Dunno why it included the first quote, mobile things.

Slight aside just in case this is the issue -- do you ever use the 'multi-quote this message' thing? I've had it really stack quotes on before because I forgot I used it.

[LianaThorne]

Slight aside just in case this is the issue -- do you ever use the 'multi-quote this message' thing? I've had it really stack quotes on before because I forgot I used it.

I don't usually but maybe I fat fingered something? Wouldn't be shocked tbh xD

[Erzaa]

Expert delivery itself as a means to get credits is flawed on itself, honestly. FC credits should be made with FC activity.

What would you consider FC activity? I'm curious, because as an owner of a single person tiny FC, I'm curious how I'd make more credits.

[LianaThorne]

What would you consider FC activity? I'm curious, because as an owner of a single person tiny FC, I'm curious how I'd make more credits.

I second this question as I'm also struggling to think up what could be considered an FC activity.

[tsuchii]

You said FC houses, plural. Not just one. I'll wait.

Privates are irrelevant to the discussion anyway since they have nothing to do with submarines.

Dunno why it included the first quote, mobile things.

I own an FC house with my friends. A personal in my main and my Materia's alt which I don't mind giving up. Those are my houses. I don't need specific plots. That isn't the reason for this thread.
No individual should excessively own entire wards for the purpose of currency farming, just because it is allowed by a loop hole, when there is literal scarcity in housing.