Single person FC house trick, official response required

[Kyssa]

So far I'm not seeing the patch available for download. Until that happens, they have no way to test. They can only make guesses based on what was possible before the patch.

There are some circumstances that will prevent a player from deleting a character. We can hope this will be a new one, though it's still just annoyance and not obstacle. RMT would just have to set up a few extra service accounts to meet the 4 member requirement faster. There are way too many loopholes (such as "owned as buyer") for the FC changes to have any real impact.

The lottery itself is the only real barrier to RMT at this point. They have to beat the lottery before they'll have something to sell.

That's why I said, "to the best of their ability right now"- chances are, they've tested it to see what happens with the current system- if it worked, that's likely where the idea of their workaround came from. However, we'll see tomorrow.

These people have been prepping for months. It may only work for one big push out of the gate, but they'll be swimming in gil/cash. I know of some that have held medium and large plots since July- all empty of course. The smalls are way too numerous to even count.

edit- aww, it's cute that the flippers are reading our posts and losing it over on their discord after crying about stalkers, whining about those of us posting on these issues having no life. PS- we're not the ones setting up multiple accounts selling pixels in a video game. LOL.
It's awesome how they're all getting nervous about the possibility of their "livelihood" drifting away like petals on the wind..

edit 2- LOL! Just posted to my favorite housing discord, thank you FFXIV Housing Alerts!!: "The new FC permission restrictions apply to deleting characters. If you delete a character and there is no characters currently eligible in your FC to receive leadership, the FC will dissolve. If you FC dissolves, the FC house attached will be automatically demolished. This theoretical loophole is dead. This is fantastic in regards to curbing housing RMT and malicious resale."

Buh bye loophole!!

[Communion]

This isn't some trick and doesn't need to be yelled and screamed at. 99% of all FC houses are FCs of one. Why? Because then you can have apartments for all your alts (which S-E should have given us a LONG time ago); and, more importantly, you can use the Company Chest as Account Storage (which S-E should have given us a LONG time ago). So, stop complaining, form your FC of One, and get a house the way it should have been set up to begin with.

[Jojoya]

This isn't some trick and doesn't need to be yelled and screamed at. 99% of all FC houses are FCs of one. Why? Because then you can have apartments for all your alts (which S-E should have given us a LONG time ago); and, more importantly, you can use the Company Chest as Account Storage (which S-E should have given us a LONG time ago). So, stop complaining, form your FC of One, and get a house the way it should have been set up to begin with.

I hope you understand how silly this sounds, even if we assume you're referring to a house of One Player and not a house of One Character.

No one has done detailed tracking recently to the best of my knowledge but the last time it was done only about 30% of FCs had 4 or fewer members. While the percentage has no doubt increases, I'd be surprised if it's risen over 40%. 99% is a gross exaggeration of what is happening.

You can have apartments for all of your alts without having to put them all into the same FC, or any FC for that matter. Apartments are one per character, not one per account. You're only going to run into problems if all of your alts are on Balmung or Mateus.

You're correct that some form of account-wide sharing between alts is needed but there are still ways to get around the problems caused by the lack, especially when it comes to gil. No-tax Mannequins. Pure coincidence but I had already transferred a large amount of gil between alts earlier today using Mannequins. I could have also done it through the marketboard (like we had to do before Mannequins existed) but no reason to pay the tax when all it requires is the receiving character to have some form of housing whether house, apartment or FC room. The cost of an apartment was far less than the amount I saved by not having to pay tax at the marketboard.

[Serenitey]

You can have apartments for all of your alts without having to put them all into the same FC, or any FC for that matter. Apartments are one per character, not one per account. You're only going to run into problems if all of your alts are on Balmung or Mateus.

I hope you realize how silly and entitled that sounds. One, most do not want a box. Two, fc like mine that had me and 6 of my friends in it - they went inactive and I should give up my house why? For entitled brats that just want to show it off? Nope. I think you make a lot of assumptions and such that you do not have facts for. Honestly I am not sorry I still have my FC and still keep inviting my friends back so if they do come back we still have our place to hang away from people like you.

[SanadaX]

Lol this thread is getting good.

[Jojoya]

I hope you realize how silly and entitled that sounds. One, most do not want a box. Two, fc like mine that had me and 6 of my friends in it - they went inactive and I should give up my house why? For entitled brats that just want to show it off? Nope. I think you make a lot of assumptions and such that you do not have facts for. Honestly I am not sorry I still have my FC and still keep inviting my friends back so if they do come back we still have our place to hang away from people like you.

You need to work on reading comprehension.

First, go back and read what I quoted. The other poster was implying that alts cannot have apartments unless there's a shared house. I pointed out that they can. There was no mention of the size of housing desired for the alts by either of us, just whether or not they can have an apartment.

Second, if your FC was created by you and your friends (even if they are currently inactive) with the long term goal of playing together then you're not a FC of one the other poster was talking about. Yours would be a FC of seven.

At no point in my reply did I talk about taking a house away from anyone. Why would you assume I want to take a house away from players like you?

Did I make an assumption in my reply? Yes, I even pointed out in my first sentence that I was going to make an assumption of what the other poster meant by "FC of one". It's up to that poster to correct me if what I stated was not what they meant.

Good now?

Lol this thread is getting good.

It speaks a lot about the popularity of housing in MMORPGs and just how badly SE screwed up in designing housing for FFXIV. It shows that they don't understand what players want from housing.

[Communion]

Creating a solo FC to buy an FC house with rooms for all your alts, a company chest to be used as a kind of account storage, being able to choose the Actions, and having lore naming control over the TAG that comes after your name... is the way the game should have been set up for individual players TO BEGIN WITH! 99% of all solo FCs are legit and upstanding players. Stop complaining, found your own FC, and move on.

As far as the 4 member rule for putting in a house bid... who doesn't have a second account to fill that need with alts? Square loves two or more subs coming from the same person. Heck, why not? Official response? Oh, puh-lease... It's all good.

[PintyMcEars]

Creating a solo FC to buy an FC house with rooms for all your alts, a company chest to be used as a kind of account storage, being able to choose the Actions, and having lore naming control over the TAG that comes after your name... is the way the game should have been set up for individual players TO BEGIN WITH! 99% of all solo FCs are legit and upstanding players. Stop complaining, found your own FC, and move on.

As far as the 4 member rule for putting in a house bid... who doesn't have a second account to fill that need with alts? Square loves two or more subs coming from the same person. Heck, why not? Official response? Oh, puh-lease... It's all good.

I get you're bored but come on, second necro of the same post?

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Creating a solo FC to buy an FC house with rooms for all your alts, a company chest to be used as a kind of account storage, being able to choose the Actions, and having lore naming control over the TAG that comes after your name... is the way the game should have been set up for individual players TO BEGIN WITH! 99% of all solo FCs are legit and upstanding players. Stop complaining, found your own FC, and move on.

As far as the 4 member rule for putting in a house bid... who doesn't have a second account to fill that need with alts? Square loves two or more subs coming from the same person. Heck, why not? Official response? Oh, puh-lease... It's all good.

I feel by not responding to the reports and such that they have already made the stance clear; but who knows what DT 2 will bring with a new district.

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

Hi, I am happy with prioritising FC over single Individuals for housing, but there is a way to bypass all the restrictions by creating your FC wait 30 days, then invite 3 more just to bypass the 4 person requirement, buy the house and then kick these 3.

I personally think that this approach could fall under ToS but will be nice to have an official response so people don't even try to bypass your restrictions.

I have several houses using pure skill