Betrayal and Wuk Lamat

[Supersnow845]

Using the WOL to win the support of the xaela tribes was as you say beneficial to the WOL because it allowed the far east to draw attention away from Ala mhigo. As it stands right now the WOL has absolutely zero stake in this conflict. The dialogue of the WOL also shows that they continue to grow tired of being used as a mindless weapon for the leaders of the world so it’ll definitely be important to the story as to whether this conflict actually draws the WOL in in a meaningful way

Right now we only have Wuk’s assurance that one of the other competitors wants to invade the 3 great continents but that could simply be used as a hook to draw in the scions

Actually meaningfully engaging with the WOL as a sentiment human is I think something the game needs to focus on going forward

[PercibelTheren]

Do we really know Erenville any better than we knew Ilberd?

And also, note that Erenville doesn't seem particularly enthusiastic about Wuk's plan. He's been busy being a gleener, and may not be current on Wuk Lmat's doings; it's possible she's is using him, too.

I mean, Ilberd basically had a giant red sign reading VILLAIN above his head the entire time. It was very clear he'd turn out to be a traitor. Wuk doesn't read like that to me. You're giving the writers way too much credit.

[Themarvin]

I think it is Erenville that has bad intentions.... there is something about that guy...

[TheMightyMollusk]

Prince Hien used us to uproot the entire political status quo of a whole race of people just so he could have them as his army to reclaim his throne.

We went to the Far East in the first place to start a revolution and split the Empire's attention from Ala Mhigo, so it was more a case of mutual interests.

[Kacho_Nacho]

I think it is Erenville that has bad intentions.... there is something about that guy...

I'm don't think he's the bad sibling who was mentioned but something does seem off. Did you notice how Erenville described his relationship with Wuk compared to how Wuk described it?

*SPOILER ALERT*

Wuk said they were thick as thieves since they were little. Erenville said they were long standing acquaintances, nothing more.

[Ancalagon_Blacktalon]

my greatest fear is that they kill her off. and her betraying us would lead to that so pls, pls nooo

(my suspicion is that either one of the siblings wins and then shit hits the fan in a way that they have a very hard time handling even with our help)

[Boblawblah]

my greatest fear is that they kill her off. and her betraying us would lead to that so pls, pls nooo

(my suspicion is that either one of the siblings wins and then shit hits the fan in a way that they have a very hard time handling even with our help)

hmm, maybe a 'sibling assassinates their father, takes control and poop hits the fan'. Classic, but has lots of potential. Also, the tech savvy brother and Section 9? Unleashes some ancient evil? Good stuff

[MikkoAkure]

As it stands right now the WOL has absolutely zero stake in this conflict.

We went to the Far East in the first place to start a revolution and split the Empire's attention from Ala Mhigo, so it was more a case of mutual interests.

My whole point is that there is mutual interest.

Firstly there’s the whole thing about the sibling who wants to invade us if he wins the throne. In addition, we’re going because of the letter Krile has and promise of adventure. We also got involved in Azdaja’s whole thing because of a promise of adventure and accidentally broke something.

There’s more than one reason to motivate the WoL to go west and I don’t believe for a second they’d prefer to twiddle their thumbs in Sharlayan or dance in Limsa Lominsa when we’ve been invited to be an actual adventurer again in a place we’ve never been to before that is referenced by Emet-Selch in his last words to us with the potential for treasure while at the same time a potential invasion is at stake.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

Wuk Lamat!

[Sayo_]

My whole point is that there is mutual interest.

Firstly there’s the whole thing about the sibling who wants to invade us if he wins the throne.

There's a chance we're being lied to about that. It would make for an interesting story.