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    Player Bun_Vivant's Avatar
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    Betrayal and Wuk Lamat

    I suspect we're going to be betrayed by Wuk Lamat.

    Consider: she apparently had to come to a distant land to obtain skilled killers to support her political agenda. And that's what we are, killers. Put someone or something on our Hunt List or offer us a sack of nuts for it, and we go kill it. She didn't want us for our verbal or written communication skills.

    She specifically sought out people who knew nothing of her and nothing of her nation's politics. Now why is that? And as foreigners who, being brought in to her country to interfere with it's political succession, are likely to receive a cold reception, we're likely to learn the truth, right?

    Why couldn't she get the support she needed back home?

    And her personality: so brash, so boastful, so seemingly insecure ... that's a princess in line for the throne? Or is it a faked immaturity meant to lull us into carelessness?

    It's all very suspicious. I don't trust her one bit.
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    That would make Erenville her accomplice though, since he is vouching for her good intentions.
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    Bonuille Larouchette
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    What would even be the point of betrayal? She wants our help getting the Throne so her evil brother can't get it first, assuming we do that why would she betray us? How? Would she sell the location of the Golden City to someone else or something? Heck it wouldn't get very far since she told us bringing in foreigners was not frowned upon but outright encouraged so if we got there and people were giving us the cold shoulder it'd be pretty obvious she was lying.

    Like, yeah, don't trust her or whatever but how could she even betray us in the first place when we're using her as a petty excuse to go to Tural?

    It's not like we're poisoned and only she has the antidote or something.
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    We don't know that we're killing anybody, it could just be another Naadam.

    Also she's too cute and silly to become a villain.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Something these writers would never be brave enough to do. We'll show up, the other party will be clear bad guys doing villain stuff, maybe summon a primal or two, we'll beat them up and that'll be that.
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    I could see several ways for her to be less open/upfront than she initially seems during the course of the story but an outright betrayal without an outside force twisting her arm feels like a stretch just because there's very little motive for it. It helps her case that Erenville is vouching for her; unless she's also going to shiv him in the back, we've seen more of his character than we have of hers and a knowing betrayal would run counter to what we've seen of it.

    I don't expect her brother to be exactly what she says, mind, she's not exactly an unbiased source, and I do expect the conflict between them to end up more nuanced (or for her to just be wrong in her character assessment for whatever reason).
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    Took the given materials and made something impossible out if it.
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    Player Bun_Vivant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudje View Post
    I could see several ways for her to be less open/upfront than she initially seems ... It helps her case that Erenville is vouching for her; unless she's also going to shiv him in the back, we've seen more of his character than we have of hers and a knowing betrayal would run counter to what we've seen of it.
    Do we really know Erenville any better than we knew Ilberd?

    And also, note that Erenville doesn't seem particularly enthusiastic about Wuk's plan. He's been busy being a gleener, and may not be current on Wuk Lmat's doings; it's possible she's is using him, too.
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    Not saying it'll happen, but for the people wondering why she'd bother; A tyrant put in power by the efforts of someone else will usually want to get rid of that someone else as they have already demonstrated the ability to make sure the tyrant gets replaced.
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embran View Post
    True, not once has this game ever had a trusted ally turn on us. Nope, not a single time. Cowardly writers.
    There was Ilberd, which was kind of a big deal in changing the direction of the story, indirectly leading to Y'shtola and Thancred to be disabled and Minfilia to be taken by Hydaelyn, and directly caused the story to go into 2 expansions and indirectly a 3rd.

    His betrayal was such a big deal that I doubt they'll do it twice since it's already tread ground story-wise.
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