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  1. #51
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    Elkanah's Avatar
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    In my experience with FF11, Beastmaster was one of the only classes that players would entirely solo with. So to me it really makes sense to make Beastmaster a Limited Job if they want to stay in-line with that.
    Technically SMN was also a very solo job (but could use groups as needed). Pup was (well, still is) incredibly solo friendly. PUP can also solo t3 escha nm's and some odyssey bosses too. BST would mostly use Tiger, lizard, or crab jug pets pre 99 while leveling. But after that depended on the content. Wanted to farm a lot? Falcorr. Want to dps/cp? Tiger/lizard. Want to aoe packs of mobs? Bubbly broth (bouncing bertha).
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  2. #52
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    rawker's Avatar
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    It's funny how chicken nugget was actually tanking Ramuh Ex back in the day.. and now the idea of a pet tanking is relegated to a limited job. And for those who're wondering how was it possible, VIT melds on SMN.
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  3. #53
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    Ryskim's Avatar
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    Sigmund Galt
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I really wanted BST to be an amazing regular job instead of limited, using a Crossbow since we do not have any job with crossbow. Yes, a wasted opportunity indeed. I was also hoping they would make BLU a regular job too.

    What a pity.
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  4. #54
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryskim View Post
    I really wanted BST to be an amazing regular job instead of limited, using a Crossbow since we do not have any job with crossbow. Yes, a wasted opportunity indeed. I was also hoping they would make BLU a regular job too.

    What a pity.
    imo Beastmaster should be more like the Hunter Branch from Ragnarok Online and Blue Mage well.. learning Spell by getting hit by them.. what Role of the Trinity is supposed to get hit? Tank! It would be awesome to break away from the norm for once and give us a DoM Tank^^
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  5. #55
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    imo Beastmaster should be more like the Hunter Branch from Ragnarok Online and Blue Mage well.. learning Spell by getting hit by them.. what Role of the Trinity is supposed to get hit? Tank! It would be awesome to break away from the norm for once and give us a DoM Tank^^
    But the Falcon/Warg tree is meant for PvP. Those abilities suck at PvE.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

  6. #56
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    But the Falcon/Warg tree is meant for PvP. Those abilities suck at PvE.
    okay, but those abilities may sucked in Ragnarok Online's PvE. doesn't mean that they gonna suck in FFXIV^^
    imo a Bow wielding Job with Pets kinda fits the Deal of Beast Master, if you ask me^^
    AND! SAM also sucks in PvE but seriously rocks in PvP^^
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  7. #57
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    Nyxis Jomalah
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    Midgardsormr
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Honestly Bst should probably use a whip, considering its a weapon they've used in the past and its not a weapon with something similar already in game. Or it could be like the ones we see in Bozja, that use a warfan
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  8. #58
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    Flana's Avatar
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    Character
    Kana Kharanku
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WiccaP View Post
    Honestly Bst should probably use a whip, considering its a weapon they've used in the past and its not a weapon with something similar already in game. Or it could be like the ones we see in Bozja, that use a warfan
    The ones from Bozja use a one-handed axe and a shield.
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  9. #59
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    Master Ball
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Have to agree. The "Limited Job" concept in general is a waste.

    One of the worst aspects of FFXIV's gameplay in comparison to most MMOs is that, when played correctly, everyone plays every job the same. As in, a top level Ninja is not going to be doing anything dissimilar from another top level Ninja. Every "good" Summoner plays pretty much the same as the next. Rotations are generally static, there aren't different masteries/specializations or different builds. Gear progression is pretty linear and there aren't any significant choices beyond Melding which is already optimized for the "correct" answer right away.

    BLU and BST should have been balanced around being a full-fledged job so that it could fill that niche for people who enjoy varied build possibilities and theorycrafting, because otherwise there really isn't anything like that in this game. But a job locked behind the "Limited Job" moniker that is off from most content doesn't strike me as an appealing investment of time, and I'm sure there are no small number of people that share that same opinion.
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    Last edited by jrollins89; 05-02-2024 at 11:54 AM.

  10. #60
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Flana View Post
    The ones from Bozja use a one-handed axe and a shield.
    Hence BST could've been a good candidate for another tank job.. probably branching off from GLA. The BST is still tanking yet he commands his trusted companion like Torgal is to Clive and do "tricks". Not to mention that the companion never leaves his side, can take damage too so BST will be the first tank that has a unique mechanic of making sure your pet and you are out of harms way.. Maybe even a cooldown to temporarily mount your pet so it is easier to dodge mechanics.
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    Last edited by rawker; 05-02-2024 at 02:51 PM.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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