Boring design

[aiqa]

A few points I'd like to make.

The 1111111111 examples is not really true if you play optimally. For WHM you have Dia, Assize for damage, and the lilly heals you can use just for mobility without losing dps. Making such exaggerated claims hurts the overal cause of getting more fun gameplay for healers.

In the past with a more complicated SCH there were constant fights between SCH and WHM players. SCH players felt they were entitled to higher performance due to complexity. And WHM player unhappy about their lower performance. There is no good way to balance that.

[AmiableApkallu]

The 1111111111 examples is not really true if you play optimally. For WHM you have Dia, Assize for damage, and the lilly heals you can use just for mobility without losing dps. Making such exaggerated claims hurts the overal cause of getting more fun gameplay for healers.

It's figurative, not literal. The point is that it's ridiculous of how much one single button dominates gameplay.

You get 24 casts in 60 seconds with a 2.5 second GCD. That gets you: 3 lily heals, 1 Misery, 1.5 Assizes, 2 Dias, and… 18 Glares. Perusing random clear logs for ultimates, I'm still seeing WHM's spend 40-50% of their casts on Glare/Stone.

[ty_taurus]

A few points I'd like to make.

The 1111111111 examples is not really true if you play optimally. For WHM you have Dia, Assize for damage, and the lilly heals you can use just for mobility without losing dps. Making such exaggerated claims hurts the overal cause of getting more fun gameplay for healers.

In the past with a more complicated SCH there were constant fights between SCH and WHM players. SCH players felt they were entitled to higher performance due to complexity. And WHM player unhappy about their lower performance. There is no good way to balance that.

To add to what Apkallu said, it's specifically in reference to how healer gameplay looks like this:

^ That's P10S by the way, a fight with one of the most intense healing checks in the game. Notice how every healer is casting their basic level 1 attack spell more than every other action on their hotbar put together. We can "um, actually" the specifics of what is or isn't really the healer rotation until we die of old age, but that is ignoring the actual issue being addressed. Which is that for long swaths of gameplay, healers are stuck with nothing but 11111111 until the next DOT or Phlegma comes around only to dive right back into 111111.

[Adeacia]

Why does everyone put Glare on 1? Just put it on 3 or something instead. Sometimes the best solution is the easiest one.

[Adeacia]

The forum ate my post. I had a lot more than this written, that was just a joke at the start.

[ThorneDynasty]

Why does everyone put Glare on 1? Just put it on 3 or something instead. Sometimes the best solution is the easiest one.

Someone should make a plugin that makes the glare button randomly jump around your hotbar really.

I mean, I've said it before, I think, but healing in itself is already just playing whack-a-mole with your cooldowns anyway.

[ty_taurus]

Why does everyone put Glare on 1? Just put it on 3 or something instead. Sometimes the best solution is the easiest one.

We need you to work for NASA. With your problem solving skills, we could've found life on other planets by now.

[Osmond]

Why are healers so boring! Who in their right mind thinks it's fun to cast glare x8 times /w a dot in the middle over and over while questing through content...this is such a braindead, sleepy, and boring experience!

After hearing this same issue for months. I conclude…this new style is fine for healers. Would rather have healers pre-plan on their healing tools than rely on multiple ways to DPS.

[Absurdity]

After hearing this same issue for months. I conclude…this new style is fine for healers. Would rather have healers pre-plan on their healing tools than rely on multiple ways to DPS.

Pre-planning healing is already a thing, but that's neither very difficult nor does it take very long. And then what? You go right back to spamming a single button once the plan is finished.
And in casual content they're never going to force healers to actually plan cooldown usage, so that aspect is dead outright.

[AmiableApkallu]

After hearing this same issue for months. I conclude…this new style is fine for healers. Would rather have healers pre-plan on their healing tools than rely on multiple ways to DPS.

You can't pre-plan for Duty Finder (or rather, you can't assume that you'll be able to stick to whatever you pre-plan) or solo encounters that you only run once.