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  1. #111
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Zero was literally a hollow character. Maybe people liked her looks? She didn't know anything. After spending some time with us she was like uhhhhh... Okay.... I want to be good too I guess... /smile.

    I think if anyone likes zero maybe they actually like the potential the character could have or how they envision them in their minds but if you just take what was there... well there wasn't a lot.
    For me, Zero had potential to be interesting but how they handled her felt very juvenile.
    Oh, she's a grumpy loner because she just doesn't know what working together, altruism, and friendship are (even though voidsent have worked together in the past and she herself protects lesser voidsent in her domain)! Let's make almost every interaction she has explain those concepts to her, again and again!
    It just made her look childish in my eyes, like a preteens first edgy OC based on Guts from Berserk... ┐(´~`)┌
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  2. #112
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    Rudje's Avatar
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    Shayun Ragara
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    For me, Zero had potential to be interesting but how they handled her felt very juvenile.
    Oh, she's a grumpy loner because she just doesn't know what working together, altruism, and friendship are (even though voidsent have worked together in the past and she herself protects lesser voidsent in her domain)! Let's make almost every interaction she has explain those concepts to her, again and again!
    It just made her look childish in my eyes, like a preteens first edgy OC based on Guts from Berserk... ┐(´~`)┌
    Also, even if they were set on that arc (which I'm not a fan of, I'd rather have more characters that are allies and friends also be kinda weird and offputting, especially the women), they had to slam it through with so little time for her to develop naturally that it felt particularly forced. A lot of people I know who were excited for her saw the writing on the wall real quick and rapidly became disappointed at her being rushed through development to be more normal and palatable. ( ˙-˙ )
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  3. #113
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    One of my issues with the trailer is it just showcased people we already know. It would have been amazing to see someone new and unknown presented on the screen that wasn’t a monster or beastly in nature. Our veira and hroth was a nice touch - and krile was acceptable - but perhaps shifting focus away from the scions would have been grand.

    Imagine the battle scene revolving around Wuk instead of Estinien. Or her fabled brother showing up.

    We’ve already seen Thancred and Urianger in the city. And Estinien in action. And Y’shtola breathing. And G’raha Tia doing cat boy-related activities. Maybe have the WoL not have a melee-based class that doesn’t have a sword or his fists or an axe or a spear. :/
    We will probably see more of that in the launch trailer and story-focused trailers. Or they want to surprise us like with Yotsuyu and Zenos. The main expansion trailers usually focus around what the WoL is up to, what Scions are up to, maybe show a peek at some a place or two, and maybe a brief glimpse of something villainy.
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  4. #114
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    Embran's Avatar
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    Kitty Kattie
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 2
    All I know is that the playerbase was doomer about ShB being a "side story" and a narrative waste of time because it didn't take place on the Source and didn't have a good enough narrative hook leading in to 5.0. And that aged horribly.

    I will let them cook and see how they can surprise us with DT's story.
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  5. #115
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    CuteBucket's Avatar
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    F'helix Fraldarius
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I'm keeping my expectations safely in the mid range. I got real hyped for Endwalker and got burned bad. There's nothing in particular about Dawntrail I'm looking forward to beyond "oh cool, new stuff," and some of the QoL updates. If we get something akin to Stormblood, I'll be fine with that. Some folks seem to unreasonably hate Stormblood and it's...fine. The story wasn't the the most deep or engaging, but it introduced some neat zones and fun characters and still had some really nice moments, and the raids were good. I'm not hyped but maybe it's better than I'm not.
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  6. #116
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    Cirka Miqo'te
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tethan View Post
    what reason do I have to play? Why should I give my money to SE? I don't owe them anything.

    Maybe you should take a break from the game for a bit. It sounds like you are taking things a bit too personal with their GFX update, among other things.
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  7. #117
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuteBucket View Post
    I'm keeping my expectations safely in the mid range. I got real hyped for Endwalker and got burned bad. There's nothing in particular about Dawntrail I'm looking forward to beyond "oh cool, new stuff," and some of the QoL updates. If we get something akin to Stormblood, I'll be fine with that. Some folks seem to unreasonably hate Stormblood and it's...fine. The story wasn't the the most deep or engaging, but it introduced some neat zones and fun characters and still had some really nice moments, and the raids were good. I'm not hyped but maybe it's better than I'm not.
    Stormblood's biggest problem was the focus being as split as it was and kind of convoluted as a result(Go to Hingashi to go to Othard to help one Xaela tribe win to liberate Doma to put pressure on the Empire so we can liberate Ala Mhigo). With the exceptions of Lyse and her non-arc and some of Zenos's plot armor, the characters were largely fine. Dawntrail could very easily be a repeat of this based on what they've shown, and while it wouldn't necessarily be bad in and of itself, it wouldn't exactly be something revitalizing after Endwalker either.
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  8. #118
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    Tethan's Avatar
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    Gale Eldingar
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FakeCirka View Post
    Maybe you should take a break from the game for a bit. It sounds like you are taking things a bit too personal with their GFX update, among other things.
    Oh I am. We will see if it becomes a permanent one.
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  9. #119
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    thereal_aliceanders's Avatar
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    Pochen Lionheart
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    Cuchulainn
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I want to be excited about it! Shadowbringers was meh (yeah I know pandemic), Endwalker is possibly the worst expansion of any game I've played (very anticlimactic for the end story of a 10 year journey). So I REALLY want Dawntrail to be amazing! I'm just dreading the stupid log in times for launch, and my internet being blamed by SE for the reason why I can't log in. So here's hoping lol!
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  10. #120
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    They shouldn't have brought them all back after the end of EW. Sheesh, how many times is 'tola going to be brought back? The entire DT trailer was like a comedy sketch...the silly music at the start, no real story direction, ght eating a taco...and the pmancer reveal made all of it so cringeworthy this time. It's just disappointing to see how lackadaisical they have gotten.
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