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  1. #941
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    That sounds pretty suspicious. The benchmark is a stripped down app with very limited features. It shouldn't have any world server data attached to it. Even saved appearances from the main game are being retrieved from a file saved on the local client and not the game servers.
    Speaking as someone with game development experience, its not that uncommon. Trying to strip down an entire game into a single functional snippet can be a mammoth of a task since an absolutely ludicrous amount of systems/things in the stripped down app might be needing the full code systems they're referencing in order to properly function. For example, in the benchmark they'd need basically all the skill data in its entirely in order to properly render real-time skills being used in the benchmark, hence why its also been datamined.

    It's the same reason why game demos these days are often ridiculously huge in size despite being a small section of the game, or back in ye olde days, would often just be the full game but with some arbitrary code inserted to force cut-off the player. It's easier to just leave way more information in your demo/benchmark/etc slice than is necessary since trying to meticulously bugfix/figure what the heck you need to include and can exclude in the demo/benchmark isn't worth the dev time in most cases. But this is also a double-edged sword since it makes the app more vulnerable to datamining.

    Even beyond that, it's how people knew Cross-Region DC was coming almost a year in advance. Despite the fact the base clients had zero interaction with the system due to it not being implemented, Square did implement the special <tag> for it. Even if the benchmark doesn't interact with the servers in any way, if their latest build they were working on had already implemented the updated list of servers that would be coming, it'd be super easy to find it in the hexcode text dump.

    Either way, from what I've read on the "mines" on reddit, it's *extremely* obvious to me they basically just ripped the latest build of their DT testing server at the time they created the benchmark and shimmied whatever was easiest to do off the data volume to reduce its size that wouldn't break things in order to ship it out the door. Hence why there's such very big stuff in the benchmark.
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  2. #942
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Also adding a DC to EU seems excessive given the amount of EU servers that are ghost towns (I play over there sometimes). If anything I would imagine NA getting another DC (maybe) but even thats a stretch as I imagine SE is waiting to see how many Xbox players we get here.
    Oh it's totally way too many servers for EU. Every server has hundreds of houses right now, the newest ones more than a thousand. Although Limsa seems overcrowded at times I think it has to do with the fact I'm on Light DC where everyone travels to now. We don't need a single new EU server in my opinion. However, if they implement it for launch I'll happily use the travel feature to take advantage of a congestion-free dead DC. There are only a handful of trials and dungeons in the MSQ that require a group and those can be done with trusts now.
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  3. #943
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Oh it's totally way too many servers for EU. Every server has hundreds of houses right now, the newest ones more than a thousand. Although Limsa seems overcrowded at times I think it has to do with the fact I'm on Light DC where everyone travels to now. We don't need a single new EU server in my opinion. However, if they implement it for launch I'll happily use the travel feature to take advantage of a congestion-free dead DC. There are only a handful of trials and dungeons in the MSQ that require a group and those can be done with trusts now.
    The one thing to remember is that not every player is interested in housing. The worlds aren't being added to give us more houses. They're being added to be manage log in wait times at expansion launch.

    If congestion ends up bad, they likely will add the new worlds and hope players take advantage of them.
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  4. #944
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    Please... PLEASE SE, can we get the option to upgrade small houses to Medium then to large? Or instanced? This lottery is so whack it's not even funny.... it's just bad. PLAIN BAD.
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  5. #945
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    ugh... T_T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    ugh... T_T
    I still think moving is a solid option if you really want a house this bad. It's better than the constant disappointment or waiting 6m+ to see if Mirage is even related to housing size increases. Ultimately, Square isn't going to touch a housing revamp until after Mirage, if they even have any intentions of working on an instanced system...Mirage could be quite literally all we get and it might just be an interior theme change to match other housing districts.

    Kinda just gotta decide what's worth it to you. I'd rather break the cycle of insanity and get something rather than be sad every other week because I lost against dozens of other people on the 2nd most popular server in Crystal.
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  7. #947
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I still think moving is a solid option if you really want a house this bad. It's better than the constant disappointment or waiting 6m+ to see if Mirage is even related to housing size increases. Ultimately, Square isn't going to touch a housing revamp until after Mirage, if they even have any intentions of working on an instanced system...Mirage could be quite literally all we get and it might just be an interior theme change to match other housing districts.

    Kinda just gotta decide what's worth it to you. I'd rather break the cycle of insanity and get something rather than be sad every other week because I lost against dozens of other people on the 2nd most popular server in Crystal.
    m i guess. but we'll see when Mirage comes out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    m i guess. but we'll see when Mirage comes out
    By that point, the window of opportunity will have passed. It's already much more difficult to get a house on Dynamis than it was the last time I suggested that the window of opportunity was shrinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    By that point, the window of opportunity will have passed. It's already much more difficult to get a house on Dynamis than it was the last time I suggested that the window of opportunity was shrinking.
    Definitely. Dynamis houses are slowly disappearing now that Xbox players are no longer limited to the free trial and they're able to keep gil. We still can't purchase in wards 25-30, though. Once those open, I imagine the larges and mediums will go fast but the smalls will take a little while to fill up. Still no one who is considering moving to Dynamis is gaining anything by waiting.

    If you truly want a house, better to get a small now. If you're after a medium or large, you'll at least have less competition on Halicarnassus, Maduin and Marilith than you will on any of the other NA worlds once the last 6 wards are opened.
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    They did mention setting up another DC for us in EU not long after EW launched.

    However, I question the need for it anymore. The new servers we got being fairly dead in the water from my experience.

    During EW launch we had a pandemic and wow migration, of course SE sits on the numbers but from a player pov, it doesn’t seem necessary at this point.

    I also doubt the launch going to be as chaotic as EW was due to changes to login servers, adding more hardware and move to the cloud. Plus, a summer release vs a winter one probably will have less stress on the servers due to holidays and warm weather etc.
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