Moon Miqo'te Face 4 feedback

[Cheapshot]

Your eyelid post gave me an aha moment. I was wondering why something on my face (besides the obvious ones) just didn't look right and pinpointed it to my facepaint, which at first I was like, is it sitting too far down? Because the face stripes don't align against it the same way anymore. And then I realized-- it's being pulled down by the eyelids!



current



benchmark (no facepaint along the upper eyelids)



benchmark (you can see it being stretched down)

Thanks! That’s super valuable information. I hadn’t thought of comparing a before and after with facepaint. It’s really feeling like our face didn’t get the same level of care as others. I don’t know how I always get so lucky. Y-Y


So, unrelated, here’s a question to whomever. Has it been officially stated if the lighting was incorrect in just the CC? Or the whole benchmark?

[Rueby]

So, unrelated, here’s a question to whomever. Has it been officially stated if the lighting was incorrect in just the CC? Or the whole benchmark?

From the announcement here [x]

This

"We are currently expediting a rework of the environments and light sources of character creation for both the actual game and the benchmark; once that is complete, the current benchmark will be replaced."

And

"The character creation environment should have been updated, but was overlooked as we prioritized the development of Dawntrail and tuning the graphical update in the actual game, for which I would like to apologize."

I think it's weirdly worded but if 'the actual game' is consistent then they mean the CC in the actual game (post graphical overhaul game?/DT?), that's what I understood. I'm kinda not sure if shapes would get fixed, if they're waiting for this to essentially 'blow over', guess we'll find out. I'd like to have abit of hope that I'm wrong...

[Neviklink]

I searched the entire thread and no one has pointed out the most glaring issue with the face and that is that there is a gray line on the bottom of the nose that did not exist before. Someone with a higher graphics card could probably capture a better screenshot but
Seems there is also a line on face 3's nose

[Rueby]

Good observation. I took a look at the texture file, I'll explain why it looks grey from a color theory perspective and why it stands out, otherwise take it all with a grain of salt. It's why

Colors appear relative to what it is surrounded by, you're seeing this 'greyish' line despite it actually not being anywhere grey because it's surrounded by colors of slightly higher saturation making it look duller/muted/grey. Normally such color difference wouldn't be a 'huge' issue but the second issue is that the 'grey' area is just really harsh desaturated line causing it to stand out. I did a scuffed swatch for you to inspect if you want. [x]

I personally never noticed it until you pointed it out and even then I found a hard time seeing it, but I think it's more an issue with my eyes ahaha

Really odd honestly, I wonder why it exists, is this some imperfection generated by an upscaling software or AI...?
I think they might've missed it, I had to zoom into 800%-1200% to actually be like 'ohhhhh', I hope it gets fixed, along with the eyelid issue but I doubt it unless someone points it out.

[celestiyall]

I suppose we will all just have to make our voices heard very loudly so they fix our face u_u

[Moonsprite]

I suppose we will all just have to make our voices heard very loudly so they fix our face u_u

Yes, let’s see how many pages 4 people can get to. The thread has some valid issues like the grey nose line, but the majority of this thread is a few people replying back and forth to one another. It’s misleading, I expected to see lots of people upset but instead it’s just massive picture posts from the same people. The posts don’t even have that many likes either. I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t voice your opinions but is it really as bad as you think it is?

[celestiyall]

Yes, let’s see how many pages 4 people can get to. The thread has some valid issues like the grey nose line, but the majority of this thread is a few people replying back and forth to one another. It’s misleading, I expected to see lots of people upset but instead it’s just massive picture posts from the same people. The posts don’t even have that many likes either. I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t voice your opinions but is it really as bad as you think it is?

Cool post have a nice day

[Neviklink]

Good observation. I took a look at the texture file, I'll explain why it looks grey from a color theory perspective and why it stands out, otherwise take it all with a grain of salt. It's why

Colors appear relative to what it is surrounded by, you're seeing this 'greyish' line despite it actually not being anywhere grey because it's surrounded by colors of slightly higher saturation making it look duller/muted/grey. Normally such color difference wouldn't be a 'huge' issue but the second issue is that the 'grey' area is just really harsh desaturated line causing it to stand out. I did a scuffed swatch for you to inspect if you want. [x]

I personally never noticed it until you pointed it out and even then I found a hard time seeing it, but I think it's more an issue with my eyes ahaha

Really odd honestly, I wonder why it exists, is this some imperfection generated by an upscaling software or AI...?
I think they might've missed it, I had to zoom into 800%-1200% to actually be like 'ohhhhh', I hope it gets fixed, along with the eyelid issue but I doubt it unless someone points it out.

Sometimes you just miss stuff when doing art, it can depend on how the canvas looks and other factors. I do not think this textures were upscaled via AI, if they were you would lose a lot of detail.

In regards to facepaint that has to do with placement and the they haven't all seemed to be upscaled.

[AluneTempest]

Yes, let’s see how many pages 4 people can get to. The thread has some valid issues like the grey nose line, but the majority of this thread is a few people replying back and forth to one another. It’s misleading, I expected to see lots of people upset but instead it’s just massive picture posts from the same people. The posts don’t even have that many likes either. I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t voice your opinions but is it really as bad as you think it is?

This is because most of the people like the changes and don't post on the forums, maybe if they have an real thread just for report bugs on benchmark like the actual game have, those people voice will be heard.
I don't think the black eyelashes, the nose and the mouthgap(i miss you) are bugs so i'm not expecting them to ''fix'' it, but the low res and missplaced textures are clearly something they are not planning.

[Cheapshot]

The posts don’t even have that many likes either. I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t voice your opinions but is it really as bad as you think it is?

What do you mean exactly? Aside from the texture and mesh errors we've discovered in here, everything else is subjective. Clearly it's "as bad as we think it is" because otherwise we wouldn't think it. You're free to think it's however you want when it's a matter of opinion. In ours, we would like the graphical update to keep things more faithful to the original look and that's important to us. It's also what they stated was their goal during live events.

What exactly differently would you have us do?

Edit: also wait what do likes and the number of people in here even prove anyway? It's not twitter, and this thread is for feedback on one specific face out of all of them.