Can we have the hellhound gearset available to buy with Trophy Crystals?

[Boa-Noah]

Also Yoshi P said no on quite a few occasions now.

He said the same thing about the White Ravens, that sure changed huh? Remember that? Yeah, fact is is that no one is being robbed, they got the achievement YEARS ago and they've had that 'honor' for years now, it's time to move on and let other people play in the sandbox.

[Burmecia]

Can't the og feast reward pieces get symbol on them or something? To like mark their "prestige".

-Like my friend has GreatSerpent of Ronka parasol, a competition reward, and when you browse through those fashion accessory things, it has little marker on it, i guess to signal that: "wow, this person did a thing and won this one!".

Maybe in future, where that parasol is thrown in Mogtomes, the mogtome bought parasols wont have the "yay you won!" mark. Prestige saved.

[Araxes]

He said the same thing about the White Ravens, that sure changed huh? Remember that? Yeah, fact is is that no one is being robbed, they got the achievement YEARS ago and they've had that 'honor' for years now, it's time to move on and let other people play in the sandbox.

Then we can do the same thing with the legacy Tattoo! Thank you very much.

Man, people acting like spoiled children. Acting all up if they can't have the same pants as the other kid.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Yeah sure just let me pull up my comprehensive excel document listing all the sales from all the win-traders and who they sold to, should be real easy... oh wait, no, the simple fact is that it happened and it was pervasive enough that actual PVP players who did Feast were complaining about it near daily. It's like arguing that 'not all raiders' use plugins when most top raiders in the community actively acknowledge that pretty much everyone these days uses them, so much so that it has a portion of the playerbase that WANTS the plugins to be actively incorporated into the game itself.

I never said the majority, I said loads, big difference.

Fair enough.

Also your solution to an alternative for the currently implemented and widely popular solution to PVP rewards is... to look at Overwatch? The failed game? The one dying right now? Yeah that sounds great.

"Dying" is exaggerated, because competitive reward structure was not what caused the issues for this game. It was Bobby Kotick's vile monetization scheme and how he basically forced things on the OW team, which led to the downfall of PVE, because there was no pleasing this man other than exorbitant amounts of money for the least amount of content given. The game is currently in a healing stage and as much as people will forever miss the PVE that was promised, they are 100% giving their all to improve the core game, the PvP.

Just because a game has aspects that caused it to have a downfall does not mean that the ENTIRE game has zero things to draw from. The competitive currency system is legit and I'd like to discuss this not by talking down the game's past but by the present of this particular system. Not the cash shop, not the missing PVE, not the 5v5 vs 6v6 debate - just the competitive currency system.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

He said the same thing about the White Ravens, that sure changed huh? Remember that? Yeah, fact is is that no one is being robbed, they got the achievement YEARS ago and they've had that 'honor' for years now, it's time to move on and let other people play in the sandbox.

Didn't Yoshi P also publicly apologize to the legacy 1.X players who obtained this item legitimately fighting Nael back then and admit it was a mistake?

Sorry but I really dislike your take on this, all I read is "mom said it's my turn with the controller now" and completely and utterly disregarding what some players had to go through to obtain what they had.

[GTK0HLK]

Can you prove your claim and can you show statistics how many did it relative to how many were legit? I do not deny they exist, but I am a bit tired of the "wintrader/cheater" argument when there have been (most likely) vastly more legit players for whom the prestige and achievement mean something than bad actors. The existence of wintraders, cheaters and cheats does not mean the majority did it, thank you.

Battle Pass is a terrible suggestion. See above post for a better system.

How do you even know it wasn't a majority.

Cannot Answer a Claim without evidence to back it up with another supposition.

One says majority(of the top) others said minority(of the top)

Where's the info that it was a minority then?

Cause you also need to prove.

Otherwise the fact many have even talked about it becomes reality.

Simply put, at a certain point, exclusivity can go get trashed.

Should the new battlepass/series system not return?

should fomo be a thing?

No, if anything, having the newer items. Should be the Merit, rather than having old items that no one who got it day one would care for, except for petty and vapid exclusivity.

It again, does not matter any more.

No one cares if you were on a leader board at a time when the games systems were less mature, thus easily gameable.

Didn't Yoshi P also publicly apologize to the legacy 1.X players who obtained this item legitimately fighting Nael back then and admit it was a mistake?

Sorry but I really dislike your take on this, all I read is "mom said it's my turn with the controller now" and completely and utterly disregarding what some players had to go through to obtain what they had.

and who's fault was it that there even is Legacy Players in the first place?

The main point of theirs, is that 2.0-> onwards items have no value being gatekept.

And eventually at some point 1.0 players will also need to let go of the past.

No one on this topic will agree on what should be available to all.

And everyone will agree things like the Tattoo should stay special.(but at least AccWide to those who were at the time. Present)

This I'd about items from 2.0 onwards.

and their exclusivity is as pleasing as pixelation.

You have yet to give a reason why There would be value in keeping things Exclusive either, that isn't some petty response from players who like "Have/Have Not" Situations.

No real Objective, even being at the time and day it was active first, loses its value. Hence why it's rotation and return has more value to increase Duty counts. and other Game Experience improving outcomes.

[Boa-Noah]

Then we can do the same thing with the legacy Tattoo! Thank you very much.

Why not? I'd love a tattoo toggle or the additional dialogue legacy-only characters get, that'd be great, but fact is I didn't even know FFXIV existed for 1.0 and now the only chance I'll ever get to their ultra special treatment is watching youtube clips because they had the 'honor' of paying a subscription.

I'm 1000% all for maximum equality, you want some of the PVP gear? Go play PVP and earn your crystals and buy the armor you want, why not? What possible reason is there to lock players, especially new players who didn't have the opportunity to compete, from the content ENTIRELY so a handful of people can feel extra special? Hell why bother with the current system? Just lock that armor behind Feast like the old days, surely it's a better system with no flaws, right? If Feast was so good why isn't all PVP locked to Feast tiers? You don't get to play PVP if there's no Feast so people who won Feast can be special, it just makes sense, right?

I'm so sick of people that want their literal fancy pants to remain eternally fancy and untouchable for 99% of the playerbase, I have the stupid Cait Sith doll for getting in on the ARR early access and I could care less if someone else wants to buy one, let players be able to earn/get whatever it is they want in the game, locking it is stupid and antiquated.

[Boa-Noah]

Didn't Yoshi P also publicly apologize to the legacy 1.X players who obtained this item legitimately fighting Nael back then and admit it was a mistake?

He apologized and added a 'Replica' suffix to the White Ravens that weren't from fighting Nael because players who got them legit with Legacy were very vocal and very upset that other people got to wear their special earrings.

[Araxes]

I'm 1000% all for maximum equality,

At least you are consistent in that regard. If people are so upset about exclusivity, then it has to go ENTIRELY and not only just partly.

[Boa-Noah]

then it has to go ENTIRELY and not only just partly.

Great, glad we agree.