Viera Changes

[SongOfTheWind]

I feel somewhat uncertain even though I read the news as I feel like a lot of the changes to my M viera's face go beyond lighting and texture issues but hope springs eternal.

Yeah, it was worrying since the jp fanfest
You can see here already the pupil size change, nose darkening etc
I don’t think we ever got a Veena shown

[VerdeLuck]

Yeah, it was worrying since the jp fanfest
You can see here already the pupil size change, nose darkening etc
I don’t think we ever got a Veena shown

And the same feedback was given when this was shown, from what I remember, and people were told it was a WIP and to not worry. Well, I guess there was a cause to worry since it wasn't addressed.
I guess we have to wait and see if SE and Yoshida actually listen to the EN forums or if they just put this in the final version without listening to feedback.

[SongOfTheWind]

And the same feedback was given when this was shown, from what I remember, and people were told it was a WIP and to not worry. Well, I guess there was a cause to worry since it wasn't addressed.
I guess we have to wait and see if SE and Yoshida actually listen to the EN forums or if they just put this in the final version without listening to feedback.

Yeah, I remember that.
JP forums share the same sentiment as us from what I have seen, so there is hope.

[thousandfeathers]

I agree with everything you guys have said. There's so many issues with my Veena male face 4. The faded eyebrow, small pupil, smaller eyes, black nose, mouth shape issue, dull lips...etc, like people have mentioned in the previous posts. I'm very disappointed as well and don't feel it's the same character.

However, I would like to add something that I like with the new change. The brow bone line is more define in the new model than the old one. You can see a clear curve coming down from forehead, brow bone, indent at the eye and coming down to cheek then chin. I would like to add this as a personal positive feedback.

But it doesn't cover up all the issues mentioned above. Hope the developers can keep the positive and fix the issues before Dawntrail.

[juicybug]

To put it bluntly, the update makes them appear like they're coated in oil or made of latex. They are too shiny with no color pigmentation to the knees, fingers, palms (especially on dark skin) cheeks and chin
some natural contouring basically is what they are severely lacking.

[TheMadParadox]

Here's my female Viera Arna: Old

Benchmark:


I don't know. While I had to change a few of her colors, I like the changes to her and feel she looks better in the Benchmark than on live. I think a big thing right now is the other backgrounds. After looking at the other ones on the Benchmark, the lighting is very different from live, and doesn't seem to gel well with the changes.

I highly encourage people not to use the other backgrounds as from going off of the update post here as Kurpse linked above: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...df4d598b31650b
I think this is partly what is being referred to and what is causing the larger differences. Could be wrong though.

[Freddie_Quicksilver]

I'm mostly pretty happy with the new look, but there are 3 key things I'd like to see fixed:

1. Dark pseudo-shadow textures on the upper half of the eyes need to be lighter/removed, as mentioned by OP. Makes my character look perpetually tired and a bit lifeless.
2. Pupils on Veena (larger) have been changed to be the same as Rava (smaller), altering the look and vibe of the character a surprising amount.
3. Eyebrows have been made too light in colour and less defined, making them near-invisible on certain hair/skin colour combinations, reducing expressiveness.

Correcting these issues would be a huge improvement and much appreciated!

[LuciaMirain]

Here's my female Viera Arna: Old

Benchmark:


I don't know. While I had to change a few of her colors, I like the changes to her and feel she looks better in the Benchmark than on live. I think a big thing right now is the other backgrounds. After looking at the other ones on the Benchmark, the lighting is very different from live, and doesn't seem to gel well with the changes.

I highly encourage people not to use the other backgrounds as from going off of the update post here as Kurpse linked above: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...df4d598b31650b
I think this is partly what is being referred to and what is causing the larger differences. Could be wrong though.

There are subtle differences between both pics. In the first she looks alive, like she is ready for a fight and in the second one she has a bit more of a bored expression and ofc looks a bit more dull. I will say in the blue background my viera looks MOSTLY fine, but as soon as any light hits her face it looks terrible. Now we just wait on the updated benchmark, I guess?

[OgruMogru]

I did one of those comparison slider pics of m'boy here Excited to see him looking this good -perhaps even better!!!- in the new benchy and beyond. Hopefully with the hair highlights fixed! I got nothing constructive to add to the convo, I just like lookin' at him!

[Yencat]

In the first she looks alive, like she is ready for a fight and in the second one she has a bit more of a bored expression and ofc looks a bit more dull.

This feels a little unnecessary? Especially considering all the angry discourse around telling people they look good/the same/better in the benchmark. If they're happy with how their character looks then let them be happy, it doesn't take anything away from you.