Yoshida gives update on the benchmark/character creator

[Isurith]

If I asked someone to restore or recreate a piece of art you'd bet I'd be upset if they decided giving them duck lips was an improvement. I told everyone that Au Ra face 4's mouth was puckered out and the corners had dimples added. I finally got to see the mesh in blender last night next to the old one, courtesy of a friend. Oh, look at that, the mouth was stuck out measurably further and a literally dip in the corners was added. That's not upscaling, that's changing what a character looks like, and this announcement validates that. If people liked the new face four chances are high they did not already play face four, and I think the current face four players should take precedence. This goes for every other race. (Wanting their fangs back is not just wanting their gap back because it was cute, mooncats literally lost what made their race different.)

Mind you sharing some screenshots, or even the models, for me to look at ?
I'm suffering the same trouble, and would love to pinpoint more precisely the problems, especially to explain it to some friends that can't see any difference.

[Fuyume]

Mind you sharing some screenshots, or even the models, for me to look at ?
I'm suffering the same trouble, and would love to pinpoint more precisely the problems, especially to explain it to some friends that can't see any difference.

As soon as I get home I'd be happy to. If nothing else it let me feel less crazy for seeing the changes when people were telling me they look the same.

[Loggos]

If I asked someone to restore or recreate a piece of art you'd bet I'd be upset if they decided giving them duck lips was an improvement. I told everyone that Au Ra face 4's mouth was puckered out and the corners had dimples added. I finally got to see the mesh in blender last night next to the old one, courtesy of a friend. Oh, look at that, the mouth was stuck out measurably further and a literally dip in the corners was added. That's not upscaling, that's changing what a character looks like, and this announcement validates that. If people liked the new face four chances are high they did not already play face four, and I think the current face four players should take precedence. This goes for every other race. (Wanting their fangs back is not just wanting their gap back because it was cute, mooncats literally lost what made their race different.)

Mind you sharing some screenshots, or even the models, for me to look at ?
I'm suffering the same trouble, and would love to pinpoint more precisely the problems, especially to explain it to some friends that can't see any difference.

I would love to see those too if it's not too much trouble. It would be really helpful!

[Fuyume]

I would love to see those too if it's not too much trouble. It would be really helpful!

So, as much as I would like to, I did some googling about TOS before doing so and I'm afraid of getting my friend (and possibly myself) in trouble for 'disseminating datamined content'. So as much as I'd really like to, because it's a lot easier to tell when you separate the textures from the model, I can't. Since I can't find a definitive yes or no on whether doing that would get me banned or not and I'm not willing to risk my had-since-ARR account for it. I'm sorry.

[Loggos]

So, as much as I would like to, I did some googling about TOS before doing so and I'm afraid of getting my friend (and possibly myself) in trouble for 'disseminating datamined content'. So as much as I'd really like to, because it's a lot easier to tell when you separate the textures from the model, I can't. Since I can't find a definitive yes or no on whether doing that would get me banned or not and I'm not willing to risk my had-since-ARR account for it. I'm sorry.

I completely understand that! You should not endanger your account. I'm just glad to hear you could make that comparison to begin with. Since we'll get the new benchmark soon any feedback discussions will shift to the new models anyway.

[Fuyume]

I completely understand that! You should not endanger your account. I'm just glad to hear you could make that comparison to begin with. Since we'll get the new benchmark soon any feedback discussions will shift to the new models anyway.

Yes! I'm hoping it will become a non issue with the updates. From my minimal 3D modeling knowledge though I could see how this could happen in an early smoothing of the face before making more specific adjustments, so fingers crossed!