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  1. #71
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    So I made a side by side too… and maybe what I notice is nitpicky, but I’ll add my thoughts. I was expecting textures and such to change, but not actual shapes.

    Definitely missing an upper lip… I use mouth 2 and it used to have a pouty look to it that I like. The updated isn’t horrible, but it’s definitely different.

    It also looks like the upper eyelids are either missing or pushed in… which has the effect of making the lashes not look as long even though I think those are mostly the same. The eyebrows were given a bit more of an arc. And the eye color appears a bit darker now, so I may go a shade lighter when Dawntrail starts. (Yes I looked at different lighting/angles.) I use eyes 4 and brows 1.

    I actually like the updated nose (nose 5) and ears better. And I’m happy with the hair texture. Overall the update is fine, but I would like the lips back. Surely there was a way to update them without totally changing their shape? A lot of the other races had similar issues on certain faces.

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  2. #72
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    Kikiri Kiri
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    Saw this example posted on twitter...
    Old vs New
    https://twitter.com/Mozu_Belias/stat...578052/photo/1
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  3. #73
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    Memeri Meri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum_Username View Post
    Saw this example posted on twitter...
    Old vs New
    https://twitter.com/Mozu_Belias/stat...578052/photo/1
    The teeth really are horrible. This is because they copy-pasted the new mouth designs across all races without considering the different head/skull shape of Lalafell.
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  4. #74
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    The mouths really are uncanny now. The corners of the mouth themselves seem to be pointing up now, instead of down, which coupled with those teeth make it even worse...
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  5. #75
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    I'm about to echo everyone else in this thread but I really do hope they'll give us back our upper lip and fix the teeth (at the very least). :\
    I have also noticed the eyes look different now but I'm hoping that they'll retain their original brightness once Dawntrail releases and we get some proper lighting.
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  6. #76
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    Am I the only one that likes the new teeth? Of course it looks weird from the unnatural angle everyone keeps using, but from regular angles I like that you can see the teeth curve now (pic from reddit).

    It feels like they have a normal mouth with hamster like cheeks now, instead of a giant gaping maw.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxximus View Post
    Am I the only one that likes the new teeth? Of course it looks weird from the unnatural angle everyone keeps using, but from regular angles I like that you can see the teeth curve now (pic from reddit).

    It feels like they have a normal mouth with hamster like cheeks now, instead of a giant gaping maw.
    It's more that the skull proportions are off now. For the most part we're used to the arc of the teeth extending somewhere underneath the eyes, now they stop between the eyes.

    Comparison below (I used plastic anatomy training skulls as a comparison, but if you're squeamish to that kind of stuff, beware):
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    Last edited by Roda; 04-19-2024 at 05:05 AM.
    ~sigh~

  8. #78
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    Hmm, I can definitely see both sides with the anatomy being weird. However it doesn't really bother me since Lalas already break other anatomy principles, like their tiny closed lips not lining up with the eyes but then somehow stretching open to extremes during open mouth emotes. Are their necks even wide enough to realistically support their heads? They are very "chibi" and often chibi like anime characters break these kind of rules. I still think I prefer having the smaller teeth that are more visible, it feels overall cuter to me. But that's just my preference.
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    Last edited by Moxximus; 04-20-2024 at 03:56 AM.

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    Don't want constant runny nose on my bananafel

    Literally my first thought with my dark skinned Lala after the bench , I just created this account to be able to reply to THIS thread, hopefully they will bring back the old nose settings I hate thinking my lala will have a constant runny nose
    I loved how her hair being white makes the nose so subtle bUT IS THERE. I'm afraid they don't change it back because most people have light skinned lalafells and is not that noticeable on that one But I'm happy to see someone else posted about it.

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    Last edited by Moffifi; 04-20-2024 at 04:48 AM. Reason: typos

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    Ashiee Horokeu
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    Going to provide some feedback incase they the devs are actually looking.

    Dunesfolk face 4, eyes 3. The changes made the the eyes for my specific face, the changes made to the upper eye making it less black between the seam of the upper eyelid have changed how the overall face and expression look in general. Without the black on the upper eye, the eye looks way more rounded and cutesy. Unfortunately there are no other options I can pick from to prevent this. The image shows the eye in all available lighting types in in game character creator and benchmark.





    Not as big of a deal - I like the old eyelashes better.
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