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    One poll I saw on Reddit had hundreds of 'very happy' and 'pretty happy' responses vs less than 50 'really unhappy' (paraphrasing the responses here but that was the general vibe of them).

    It basically does seem like the vast majority of people are happy with the update. And most people who are really happy aren't going to come to the forum and just shout about how happy they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twobear View Post
    One poll I saw on Reddit had hundreds of 'very happy' and 'pretty happy' responses vs less than 50 'really unhappy' (paraphrasing the responses here but that was the general vibe of them).

    It basically does seem like the vast majority of people are happy with the update. And most people who are really happy aren't going to come to the forum and just shout about how happy they are.
    The real question is : are they mostly happy there because that the general concensus of the FFXIV player base or are they happy there because everyone that disagreed with them was downvoted to oblivion to the point they don't bother with reddit anymore? My guess is that it's probably a little bit of both, you can't deny that, on the larger scale people are mostly happy the game, except for some niche, like raiders or people that have thousands of hours of gametime, but the stats on reddit are still high because of that echo chamber process.

    But honestly, those past month, I feel like the forum have been in a better shape, the obvious trolls are either taking a break or been banned, so overall, I feel like the forum is a far better place than a year ago.

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    After checking it, it seems there was a ban wave of trolls at the end of last summer, and that we now have some kind of moderation, and that's why the forum is far less of zoo than it was a year ago - I'll give SE credit for that, that was needed. It still not perfect, but it's going in the right direction. That's something reddit hasn't acknoledged yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    The real question is : are they mostly happy there because that the general concensus of the FFXIV player base or are they happy there because everyone that disagreed with them was downvoted to oblivion to the point they don't bother with reddit anymore? My guess is that it's probably a little bit of both, you can't deny that, on the larger scale people are mostly happy the game, except for some niche, like raiders or people that have thousands of hours of gametime, but the stats on reddit are still high because of that echo chamber process.

    But honestly, those past month, I feel like the forum have been in a better shape, the obvious trolls are either taking a break or been banned, so overall, I feel like the forum is a far better place than a year ago.

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    After checking it, it seems there was a ban wave of trolls at the end of last summer, and that we now have some kind of moderation, and that's why the forum is far less of zoo than it was a year ago - I'll give SE credit for that, that was needed. It still not perfect, but it's going in the right direction. That's something reddit hasn't acknoledged yet.
    That's not really how Reddit works. Popular views get upvoted, unpopular views get downvoted. If people were generally unhappy you would expect their views to be at the top, not downvoted so much they get hidden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twobear View Post
    That's not really how Reddit works. Popular views get upvoted, unpopular views get downvoted. If people were generally unhappy you would expect their views to be at the top, not downvoted so much they get hidden.
    re reading my post, I admit it might not be clear, but was basically saying that the ration positive/negative is that high on reddit because :
    - on the larger scale, people are globally positive about the game
    - people that have critics about it don't bother with reddit since they know they will be downvoted to oblivion

    That while still high, the ration positive/negative over the whole community might be lower than on reddit. Best example being the whole long running content drought EW had, that got downplayed on reddit until some influencers began to point it out, then suddenly it was ok to say so there. What you say does not contradict that in any way.
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